Phil Rogers Admits He May Have Been Wrong About the McCarthy Trade

[Unregistered]

It's still REALLY early, but it's good to see baseball know-it-alls like Phil Rogers admit that they jumped the gun a little in proclaiming this trade completely one-sided in favor of the Rangers.

Danks, 21, exudes confidence, on the mound and off. That might be the edge that allowed him to come from out of the pack to snatch Garcia's old spot, which once seemed certain to go to McCarthy, then most likely to Floyd or Charlie Haeger.

"He's got great makeup," the Rangers' Adair said. "He's a great competitor, a blue-collar guy … a solid young man."

This spring I've asked executives and scouts from other organizations how they see McCarthy, and the consensus is that he looks like a middle- or even a back-of-the-rotation guy, not the kind of guy you build a rotation around.

The scouts who know Danks seem higher on him, even though his fastball is similarly in the low-90s. He's left-handed, his curveball can be a weapon and his intangibles are almost off the chart.

According to a major-league source, the Tigers targeted Danks as a player they had to have in any trade talks with the Rangers last winter. But whenever his name came up, the Rangers asked for somebody like Jeremy Bonderman or Joel Zumaya.

One of their scouts was stunned when he heard the White Sox had been able to get him for McCarthy.

Also, this was interesting:

Garcia, traded to the Phillies after a season in which he seemed to lose his fastball, could run the radar gun up to only 85 m.p.h. before leaving a start Wednesday complaining of a tight bicep. His uncertain status makes Williams seem wise for trading him, even if the pitchers he received in return (Gavin Floyd and Gio Gonzalez) have been pounded this spring.

Link (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070325rogerssox,1,1421466.column?coll=cs-home-headlines)

[chisoxtony]

It's still REALLY early, but it's good to see baseball know-it-alls like Phil Rogers admit that they jumped the gun a little in proclaiming this trade completely one-sided in favor of the Rangers.



Also, this was interesting:



Link (http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/cs-070325rogerssox,1,1421466.column?coll=cs-home-headlines)

I think in the long term..these trades will be great for the Sox...

[the fluffer]

...he should know better than to question KennyGM.

[CaptainBallz]

Many more KW pwnings to come... many, many more...

I can't gloat since I wasn't huge on the Freddy trade either. Right now the part that looks good about it is that Freddy's suckin it in ST and is now possibly hurt. I'm considering it a wash as of now, but it's still too soon to say.

As for McCarthy, the move will probably win some sort on Nobel Prize for Pwnage by the end of this season--- which starts in a week, btw.:rock:

[Unregistered]

Here's an article from the Dallas Morning News entitled "Danks For Nothing? (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/ksherrington/stories/032507dnsposherrington.36727d0.html)".

[the fluffer]

Here's an article from the Dallas Morning News entitled "Danks For Nothing? (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/columnists/ksherrington/stories/032507dnsposherrington.36727d0.html)".

Awesome. One thing... the author forgot to mention NICK MASSET AND JACOB RASNER.

Jon Daniels.... look out behind you.
:owned:

[fquaye14ten]

i have dislike ONE trade in the past 3 years: the geoff blum trade, because I thought Meaux was pretty good.

Well, that wasn't right, and I wasn't necessarily wrong to be ho hum to the Blum trade (despite his WS heroics) but it learned me not to question KW.

IN fact, I was glad Freddy was gone, period, regardless of who we got. Since we got Gio AND Floyd, all the better.

[SoxFan76]

FUCK THE RANGERS, FUCK THE TRIB

PS, ^ drunk post

[Unregistered]

FUCK THE RANGERS, FUCK THE TRIB

PS, ^ drunk post

Well played. :clap:

[fquaye14ten]

sox fan is back but not broed out


where was the part of your post where you talk about how good you are at munching box?

[Unregistered]

sox fan is back but not broed out


where was the part of your post where you talk about how good you are at munching box?

It's not in the "appreciation thread?" :shrug:

"I totally went down on this girl like Dave Matthews at a pub crawl."

[fquaye14ten]

i got slit-cum all over my fleece pullover sweater vest

[1951Campbell]

I have faith in KW's wisdom, but we're looking at a small sample space here. :shrug:

[Hangar18]

No ...........Phil Rogers, who is considered a heretic on some websites, at the time surmised that the SOX may have been thinking financially making those trades as opposed to short term. To tell the truth ......... I think the SOX were doing a bit of both ......

[fquaye14ten]

are you serious hangar? you're still taking this ridiculous stance :rolleyes:

[1951Campbell]

No ...........Phil Rogers, who is considered a heretic on some websites, at the time surmised that the SOX may have been thinking financially making those trades as opposed to short term. To tell the truth ......... I think the SOX were doing a bit of both ......

I think the Sox thought McCarthy had an inflated trade value, so why not get some value for him? Plus, the word on the street was that he was last in the clubhouse, first to leave, and that he kinda liked the sauce. And I'd wager that deep down McCarthy probably thought he was languishing with the Sox.

[Unregistered]

I think the Sox thought McCarthy had an inflated trade value, so why not get some value for him? Plus, the word on the street was that he was last in the clubhouse, first to leave, and that he kinda liked the sauce. And I'd wager that deep down McCarthy probably thought he was languishing with the Sox.

Yep. And in turn, they got the highly-touted prospect the Rangers were asking Jeremy Bonderman or Joel Zumaya from the Tigers for. We got him for MUCH cheaper than that, so it seems...

[fquaye14ten]

:helloexactly:

[BURGH]

Rumour has it McCarthy also pounds butt.

[BURGH]

That is, the butt of men.

[Unregistered]

Rumour has it McCarthy also pounds butt.

And by "rumour" Burgh means his butt.

[Hangar18]

Rumour has it McCarthy also pounds butt.

whether thats true or not has no bearing on his ability as a pitcher .......

[fquaye14ten]

there is no such rumor.

there is a verifiable rumor that he pounded butt, figuratively, on the mound last year

(heh heh: MOUND)

[SoxFan76]

sox fan is back but not broed out


where was the part of your post where you talk about how good you are at munching box?

haha well I don't think I would of talked about that unless the topic came up in conversation. And considering that was on WSJ, it is highly likely the conversation steered towards pussy.

My mind does not work when I'm drunk, and apparently fuck the Rangers and fuck the Trib were the only things that came to my mind. But I always knew this would be a great deal for the Sox. I'm just glad others are starting to see this now.

[Unregistered]

haha well I don't think I would of talked about that unless the topic came up in conversation. And considering that was on WSJ, it is highly likely the conversation steered towards pussy.

My mind does not work when I'm drunk, and apparently fuck the Rangers and fuck the Trib were the only things that came to my mind. But I always knew this would be a great deal for the Sox. I'm just glad others are starting to see this now.

I agree with your original statement. Fuck both of those things.

[fquaye14ten]

loftus, you rock

[SoxFan76]

loftus, you rock

The man speaks the truth.

[maurice]

I understand that Rogers and his Cubune brethren think the McCarthy trade was financially motivated. OTOH, I still have absolutely no idea how a reasonable and honest person can think that. If KW were dumping salary, he would have kept the dirt-cheap McCarthy and dumped more of the $10 mil. / year pitchers.

I said it at the time of the trade, and I'll say it again:
McCarthy + whatshisname for Danks + Massett + Rasner =
Good prospect + 0 for great prospect + good prospect + marginal prospect =
Dumb trade for Texas + nice trade for us.

In other words, the brain of the Rangers' GM is half the size of KW's brain. It's science.