Oh Crap, Ari Fleischer's Back...

[CaptainBallz]

...And as big of a tool as ever..
So, it seems like the new propaganda strategy is to not even deny the misleading and patently false links between 9/11 and the misadventure in Iraq, but to ram that connection home and tell reality to go fuck iteself. To even mention the inappropriate connection is "being stuck in the past".


http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/08/23/ari-fleischers-propaganda-iraq-war-ad/


This guy really pisses me off...

[Pick a name, Buddy]

I dunno Ballz. Just because the so-called justification for going in there turned out to be based on flawed intelligence from every flinkin' intelligence agency in the world doesn't necessarily make it the wrong thing to do. Thank you.

Let the lambasting begin...

[CaptainBallz]

I dunno Ballz. Just because the so-called justification for going in there turned out to be based on flawed intelligence from every flinkin' intelligence agency in the world doesn't necessarily make it the wrong thing to do. Thank you.

Let the lambasting begin...

Let's assume that it is "the right thing to do". Wouldn't its "rightness" be able to justify itself without having to manipulate reality by trying to equate the war in Iraq to 9/11?
There comes a time to call a pig a pig, Fuller.

Or are you going to follow suit and start making comparisons to Vietnam as well...

[Pick a name, Buddy]

Let's assume that it is "the right thing to do". Wouldn't its "rightness" be able to justify itself without having to manipulate reality by trying to equate the war in Iraq to 9/11?
There comes a time to call a pig a pig, Fuller.

Or are you going to follow suit and start making comparisons to Vietnam as well...


Your statement assumes that the "rightness" has not yet justified itself. I would differ. Now I am not one to tie Iraq and 9/11 together, but if we did go to Iraq on flawed pretenses I think we ended up doing the right things (albeit in a totally flacocked manner until very recently)

I don't know enough about Vietnam to make comparisons, but I have heard Hannity make sense out of it to some degree.

[Prope]

Hannity and makes sense are words that do not go together.

[CaptainBallz]

Your statement assumes that the "rightness" has not yet justified itself. I would differ. Now I am not one to tie Iraq and 9/11 together, but if we did go to Iraq on flawed pretenses I think we ended up doing the right things (albeit in a totally flacocked manner until very recently)

I don't know enough about Vietnam to make comparisons, but I have heard Hannity make sense out of it to some degree.

I don't think we can continue this conversation

But I will just to marvel at the intellectual monsoon that must be going on in your head to rationalize accepting something acted out under false pretenses because you believe it to be the right thing anyway for reasons that are almost certainly as false as the false pretenses given, meanwhile completely ignoring and/or finding no reason to be slightly miffed about the act of widespread dissemination of false information used as a pretense for the action you find justified by default...

You're a modern marvel, fuller

[Pick a name, Buddy]

You know, I used to really like Hannity. But some of his tactics have really begun to bother me. Recently he interviewed Daryl Hannah and she came across as so knowledgeable, sweet and well-mannered and Hannity just blasted her and tried to make her look disingenuous. And she was right!! Some of his ambush tactics are bush league. I think his heart is in the right place, but he needs to work on his methodology

I'll be the first to admit that some of these fools end up clinging to their dogma to the point of foolishness. What is wrong with being balanced? They should take a page out of Glenn Beck's book...

[maurice]

Fleischer is an idiot savant. He makes no sense because he's stupid. His genius-level talent is getting away with making no sense by utterly stupifying media types with immense piles of BS.

Now that I think of it, it's doesn't take much to stupify media types.

Hannity is not concerned about determining what is right or wrong. He takes his talking points and then simply attacks anybody who disagrees with them. If somebody makes a good point, he just changes the subject and makes the discussion personal.

This is only "persuasive" to people who already agree with you and exemplifies everything that is bad about the current level of national discourse.

[CaptainBallz]

Hannity is not concerned about determining what is right or wrong. He takes his talking points and then simply attacks anybody who disagrees with them. If somebody makes a good point, he just changes the subject and makes the discussion personal.

This is only "persuasive" to people who already agree with you and exemplifies everything that is bad about the current level of national discourse.

Didn't you say the same thing about me?

:cool:

I'm much better looking than Hannity

[maurice]

Didn't you say the same thing about me?

Yes. I also probably said that far righties and far lefties have more in common with each other than they do with the folks in the chewy center.
:cool:

[CaptainBallz]

Yes. I also probably said that far righties and far lefties have more in common with each other than they do with the folks in the chewy center.
:cool:

I transcend the left/right dynamic... Standing atop of it perfectly so that the center need only look up to see what I think of them...

[Prope]

Do they see you pissing?

[CaptainBallz]

:o

[Prope]

You should cook more.

[CaptainBallz]

Too big of a mess

[Pick a name, Buddy]

Hannity is not concerned about determining what is right or wrong. He takes his talking points and then simply attacks anybody who disagrees with them. If somebody makes a good point, he just changes the subject and makes the discussion personal.

This is only "persuasive" to people who already agree with you and exemplifies everything that is bad about the current level of national discourse.

That is some very astute analysis, maurice (and I only call you that because- well, it is your username)

Now where is this chewy center you speak of? I'd like to mapquest it. Do they allow dogs?

[SABRSox]

Glenn Beck is a racist.

[Pick a name, Buddy]

Skrip, your credibility diminishes with each post... :rolleyes:

[Dan Mega]

Yes. I also probably said that far righties and far lefties have more in common with each other than they do with the folks in the chewy center.
:cool:

This is definitely a fact among facts.

Hannity is pretty much the Jay Mariotti of political media.

[SABRSox]

Skrip, your credibility diminishes with each post... :rolleyes:
Glenn Beck, to the first Muslim elected to the House of Representatives:

And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, "Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies."

[Prope]

To be fair, isn't that Muslim representative from Minnesota? Of course he's aiding the enemy, he's a liberal from the only state to vote against Reagan in 1984.

[Erik The Red]

Glenn Beck, to the first Muslim elected to the House of Representatives:

And I have to tell you, I have been nervous about this interview with you, because what I feel like saying is, "Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies."

Did I miss something? When did Islam become a race? :confused:

[maurice]

Yeah, but the GOP can't be TOO mad at them. Minnesota also set the precedent for electing a formerly 'roided out quasi-athlete governor.

[Pick a name, Buddy]

Did I miss something? When did Islam become a race? :confused:
:helloexactly:

BTW, is that the late, great Stu Unger?

[SABRSox]

Did I miss something? When did Islam become a race? :confused:
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