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Pick a name, Buddy
08-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Maybe he'd better think about getting out of this race before he says anything else stupid. He is building quite a rap sheet!

Linky (http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/08/while_in_new_hampshire_yesterd.html)

wrW4fOGIMVY

Prope
08-14-2007, 10:48 PM
Maybe he'd better think about getting out of this race before he says anything else stupid. He is building quite a rap sheet!

Linky (http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/08/while_in_new_hampshire_yesterd.html)

wrW4fOGIMVY
If everybody who ever said something stupid during a campaign dropped out, Al Gore would be our president right now.

SABRSox
08-15-2007, 01:46 AM
Well, he does have a point, sort of. Not well worded, but you know, the Taliban is running most of Afghanistan again.

Another Mission Accomplished for W.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 06:30 AM
If everybody who ever said something stupid during a campaign dropped out, Al Gore would be our president right now.

But Gore would have dropped out...

http://www.advertisementave.biz/images/256x192/sprint-man.jpg

Well, he does have a point, sort of. Not well worded, but you know, the Taliban is running most of Afghanistan again.



BZZZT! Show your work....

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 03:37 PM
They should just make someone from SATC ruler of the states. I know we would sure be better for it. :rock:

cheeses_h_rice
08-15-2007, 03:39 PM
I'm not sure anyone who supports George Bush has room to talk about someone else putting their foot in their mouth.

Just sayin'.

:shrug:

Prope
08-15-2007, 03:40 PM
I know how hard it is to put food on your family.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 04:06 PM
I'm not sure anyone who supports George Bush has room to talk about someone else putting their foot in their mouth.

Just sayin'.

:shrug:

Say waht? First off, I would not consider myself someone who supports George Bush, per se. But he is our president and he is doing the best that he can. Granted, that may not necessarily be saying a whole lot. Granted also, I did vote for him twice, but again, that doesn't say a whole lot either.

I do support the war against terrorism. We are making big gains in Iraq, despite the unwillingness of the mainstream media to acknowledge that. Good thing for me I don't rely on that mainstream media as my news source. Sux for those who do though.

Yeah, W is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but is leaps and bounds ahead of what we were offered as an alternative. Despite the baggage, I am quite pleased to have dodged those two bullets!

And lastly, I do not surrender the right to you or those like you to call out anyone when the situation calls for it. They haven't stripped those rights.

Yet

Unregistered
08-15-2007, 04:09 PM
I would have preferred Gore.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 04:10 PM
I think Gore could equal the buffoonery of W. So W gets my vote based on shear ideology

Unregistered
08-15-2007, 04:13 PM
Except as VP, Gore had 8 years of deep foreign relations while George W was... what was he doing?

JohnBasedowYoda
08-15-2007, 04:22 PM
Back to the issue at hand, is Obama black 'nuff?

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 04:29 PM
Except as VP, Gore had 8 years of deep foreign relations while George W was... what was he doing?

Excellent point. I was not a big fan of Kerry, but I was an Al Gore fan...that was before he became this weird environmental chicken little.


About the Obama comment, meh. It was dumb, but it pales in comparison to the W quotes out there.

Now about Obama...he's not my guy. I could like him in the future, but he's too green right now. I could go for a little Edwards or Kucinich though.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 04:42 PM
Except as VP, Gore had 8 years of deep foreign relations while George W was... what was he doing?


You would think that to be the case, but it was not evident from that administration's dealings with enemies of the republic. After all, nobody is
bending over backwards to pat Clintongore on the back for their mastery of foreign relations.

MeanFish
08-15-2007, 04:47 PM
But he is our president and he is doing the best that he can.

:rolling: Best that he can at what? Taking away your rights? Wasting your hard earned money on an illegal war that never should have come to pass? If you think that man has your best interests in mind with any decision he does, I've got a leaning tower in Italy to sell you.

You would think that to be the case, but it was not evident from that administration's dealings with enemies of the republic. After all, nobody is
bending over backwards to pat Clintongore on the back for their mastery of foreign relations.

Really? Clinton had his faults, but a lack of foreign relations skill was not among them.

Excellent point. I was not a big fan of Kerry, but I was an Al Gore fan...that was before he became this weird environmental chicken little.

I liked Gore a lot in 2000, but couldn't vote for him because Joe Lieberman is a piece of shit. I wasn't a big Kerry fan, but I thought he'd do a better job than Bush. I'm confident I would have been right.

Back to the issue at hand, is Obama black 'nuff?

Man, this question irritates me. It's basically a roundabout way of saying "are educated, well-spoken men black enough?" I bet Bill Cosby loves this one.

maurice
08-15-2007, 05:00 PM
We are making big gains in Iraq

Sadly, no. And Iraq is not the only disaster. AQ is as strong as they ever were.
:mad:

JohnBasedowYoda
08-15-2007, 05:17 PM
Man, this question irritates me. It's basically a roundabout way of saying "are educated, well-spoken men black enough?" I bet Bill Cosby loves this one.
:shrug:

Look at the idiots posing this question

MeanFish
08-15-2007, 05:25 PM
:shrug:

Look at the idiots posing this question

Ha, no thanks. No need to get depressed before indulging in large quantities of beer and trivia at the bar.

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 05:36 PM
Say waht? First off, I would not consider myself someone who supports George Bush, per se. But he is our president and he is doing the best that he can. Granted, that may not necessarily be saying a whole lot. Granted also, I did vote for him twice, but again, that doesn't say a whole lot either.

I do support the war against terrorism. We are making big gains in Iraq, despite the unwillingness of the mainstream media to acknowledge that. Good thing for me I don't rely on that mainstream media as my news source. Sux for those who do though.

Yeah, W is not the sharpest tool in the shed, but is leaps and bounds ahead of what we were offered as an alternative. Despite the baggage, I am quite pleased to have dodged those two bullets!

And lastly, I do not surrender the right to you or those like you to call out anyone when the situation calls for it. They haven't stripped those rights.

Yet

this is why i like u

Sadly, no. And Iraq is not the only disaster. AQ is as strong as they ever were.
:mad:

Not in america though

Really? Clinton had his faults, but a lack of foreign relations skill was not among them.



Id say clinton taking campaign donations from the Chinese military being a major fault

soxwon
08-15-2007, 07:27 PM
Hey dont worry PresiDENT!! Hillary will bring peace to all the little children of the world.
No more Terror, as the minute she takes office, all terrorists will lay down their
artillery and scream-We Surrender!!!
No more homeless people, no more need for tazer-guns,
Blacks, whites, Asians, Latino's will dance together in the streets of America, laying aside all previous prejudices.
Cub fans and Sox fans will copulate With each other in the Streets of chicago
For the Anointed one will now run our Wonderfull country.
She will sign a law decreeing, a president can be in office for as long as the American people vote HER back in.
So my friends Hillary will be OUR president for the rest of all of OUR lives.
Isn't it great to be an American?

3D23
08-15-2007, 07:33 PM
:rolling: Best that he can at what? Taking away your rights? Wasting your hard earned money on an illegal war that never should have come to pass? If you think that man has your best interests in mind with any decision he does, I've got a leaning tower in Italy to sell you.

Okay, take away rights? Let's think about this a lil bit. Dems are NOTORIOUS for hunting down and killing any right with wiggle room. Think gun control, victims rights, smoker's rights, banning of certain music (Oh yeah, put Gore in there so Tipper can go batshit crazy), etc., etc. I don't agree with Fuller, and I did vote for Bush, but can you imagine what Gore would have done with 9/11? I did not vote for Bush the second time, and I also did not vote for Kerry. Really, both parties are a POS.



Really? Clinton had his faults, but a lack of foreign relations skill was not among them.
Foreign relations, yes, he was good at shmoozing. Foreign policy, not so much. Name ONE policy that he enacted that had any teeth to it. Let's talk Kosovo. That was his Iraq, but he was such a media darling they igonred the bullshit that was going on.



I liked Gore a lot in 2000, but couldn't vote for him because Joe Lieberman is a piece of shit. I wasn't a big Kerry fan, but I thought he'd do a better job than Bush. I'm confident I would have been right.

Kerry, no. Edwards, probably.



Man, this question irritates me. It's basically a roundabout way of saying "are educated, well-spoken men black enough?" I bet Bill Cosby loves this one.

Well, my opinion of Yoda's posing of the question was, will his own race vote for him, not the normal, everyday blacks, they may very well do so, but the lower income, socio-economic subgroup that the dems tried so hard to mobilize with the "Vote or Die" bullshit, but couldn't actually get them to vote. Here's where I don't think Obama can win; he is considered too 'uncle Tom-ish' by the aforementioned group, and he will force racist whites to the polling places in mass majority just to make SURE he doesn't win, that it isn't going to happen. Even people who aren't typically 'racists' but you know, the Nascar, deep-south, good ole boys will make damned sure it won't happen. I think the same thing for Hillary (whom I loathe, I actually half-like Obama) no way in hell a woman gets in there, not yet, anyhow.

I am not racist, and not trying to sound like it with this statement, but it is true. It's one thing to call people up and do a poll and have everyone SAY they will vote for him, but wait until election day and see who actually goes out and votes. I think the story will be quite different.

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 07:34 PM
Hey dont worry PresiDENT!! Hillary will bring peace to all the little children of the world.
No more Terror, as the minute she takes office, all terrorists will lay down their
artillery and scream-We Surrender!!!
No more homeless people, no more need for tazer-guns,
Blacks, whites, Asians, Latino's will dance together in the streets of America, laying aside all previous prejudices.
Cub fans and Sox fans will copulate With each other in the Streets of chicago
For the Anointed one will now run our Wonderfull country.
She will sign a law decreeing, a president can be in office for as long as the American people vote HER back in.
So my friends Hillary will be OUR president for the rest of all of OUR lives.
Isn't it great to be an American?

http://www.stressbuster1.com/pics/puke.jpg
Sounds like a plan to me. :thumbsup:

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 07:41 PM
Sadly, no. And Iraq is not the only disaster. AQ is as strong as they ever were.
:mad:

another report on Wednesday — which got little coverage — noted that U.S. and Iraqi forces have now killed or captured 75% of al-Qaida's leadership in Iraq.

Linky (http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=272070827120047)

You know, I actually think Obama is a nice person. I just don't think he is presidential material yet.

If anyone saw Hannity interview Newt Gingrich yesterday on H&C, Newt made an excellent point. Obama is a US Senator and he can do things today to resonate with the American public rather than saying what he would do in a year and a half. For instance, he could propose an amendment to deal with the kind of goofy-ass loophole that allows an illegal alien that is facing a 31-count indictment that includes repeatedly raping a 5-year old child and threatening her family and was out on $5,000 bail- to not be allowed to be free to blow away 4 promising black college students! That would be a home run!

samram
08-15-2007, 08:07 PM
another report on Wednesday — which got little coverage — noted that U.S. and Iraqi forces have now killed or captured 75% of al-Qaida's leadership in Iraq.

Linky (http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=272070827120047)

You know, I actually think Obama is a nice person. I just don't think he is presidential material yet.

If anyone saw Hannity interview Newt Gingrich yesterday on H&C, Newt made an excellent point. Obama is a US Senator and he can do things today to resonate with the American public rather than saying what he would do in a year and a half. For instance, he could propose an amendment to deal with the kind of goofy-ass loophole that allows an illegal alien that is facing a 31-count indictment that includes repeatedly raping a 5-year old child and threatening her family and was out on $5,000 bail- to not be allowed to be free to blow away 4 promising black college students! That would be a home run!

Yeah, but they can appoint new leaders and be right back where they started. There's no shortage of people who want to join up in the middle east.

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:09 PM
this is why i like u


Fuller, this is not a good thing.

Okay, take away rights? Let's think about this a lil bit.

:hello:

And let's not forget the patriot act.

I am confused by what you list as Dems taking away rights. It isn't illegal to smoke cigarettes, gun control today is pretty much a joke, and from what I know, I can't think of any music that is banned. I really can't see an argument why parental warning labels are a bad thing. :shrug:

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 08:10 PM
Yeah, but they can appoint new leaders and be right back where they started. There's no shortage of people who want to join up in the middle east.

Yeah, there is that 72-virgins thing.

I always wondered. For the 72-virgins, is that their hell??

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:11 PM
]You know, I actually think Obama is a nice person. I just don't think he is presidential material yet.

We are on the exact same page here.

Yeah, there is that 72-virgins thing.

I always wondered. For the 72-virgins, is that their hell??

I would think so.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 08:13 PM
We are on the exact same page here.



Wanna have breakfast with The King? :hello:

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 08:13 PM
Fuller, this is not a good thing.



:hello:

And let's not forget the patriot act.

I am confused by what you list as Dems taking away rights. It isn't illegal to smoke cigarettes, gun control today is pretty much a joke, and from what I know, I can't think of any music that is banned. I really can't see an argument why parental warning labels are a bad thing. :shrug:


Blago had his violent video game law struck down by the federal courts saying it violates first amendment rights

You dont see anything wrong? Who determines what gets a parental warning? Hell, should there be parental warnings on the bible because there is a hella lot of violence in there. Also, the daily news, in print or video form is always containing violence

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:20 PM
Wanna have breakfast with The King? :hello:

Yes.

You dont see anything wrong? Who determines what gets a parental warning? Hell, should there be parental warnings on the bible because there is a hella lot of violence in there. Also, the daily news, in print or video form is always containing violence

I would imagine the FCC or whoever rates movies. Look, I'm all for free speech and I don't like censorship, but on the other hand I think parents should have a say in what their children hear/watch via the media. A parental warning does not prohibit minors from owning, watching, or listening to said material like drinking or smoking. Perhaps you may think differently if you ever have children.

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 08:21 PM
I like Obama, and think he could be a very good president, but I'm not so sure either that now is the right time.

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 08:21 PM
I like Obama, and think he could be a very good president, but I'm not so sure either that now is the right time.

why would he be a good president

Yes.



I would imagine the FCC or whoever rates movies. Look, I'm all for free speech and I don't like censorship, but on the other hand I think parents should have a say in what their children hear/watch via the media. A parental warning does not prohibit minors from owning, watching, or listening to said material like drinking or smoking. Perhaps you may think differently if you ever have children.

I would be like how my parents raised me, i would instill values in them and know they know the difference between right and wrong and grow up right. I wasnt shielded from violence in movies or song, i knew the difference between right and wrong and never acted on "subliminal violent impulses in music". Its called trusting your children and listening to them

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Better than Franklin Pierce, at least?

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 08:25 PM
Better than Franklin Pierce, at least?

"We Polked you in 1844; we shall Pierce you in 1852!"

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:29 PM
why would he be a good president

Because Oprah said so?:shrug:

I would be like how my parents raised me, i would instill values in them and know they know the difference between right and wrong and grow up right. I wasnt shielded from violence in movies or song, i knew the difference between right and wrong and never acted on "subliminal violent impulses in music". Its called trusting your children and listening to them

That's all fine and dandy, spiewak, but would you come to down to the real world for a minute? I was raised the same way as you, and for the most part I turned out alright. Unfortunatley though, people don't have to take a test or get a license to become a parent. I just don't see the harm in parental warnings. If a child's parents are like yours and mine, they wouldn't give a flying fuck about a parental warning label. Do you also think that children should be allowed to go into to porn shops and buy whatever they want?

p.s. What is your sig quote from? What's the context?

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 08:34 PM
I actually don't know why he would be a good president, no other candidate really catches my attention. I'll be voting for the Republican guy anyways. :shrug:

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 08:35 PM
Because Oprah said so?:shrug:



That's all fine and dandy, spiewak, but would you come to down to the real world for a minute? I was raised the same way as you, and for the most part I turned out alright. Unfortunatley though, people don't have to take a test or get a license to become a parent. I just don't see the harm in parental warnings. If a child's parents are like yours and mine, they wouldn't give a flying fuck about a parental warning label. Do you also think that children should be allowed to go into to porn shops and buy whatever they want?

p.s. What is your sig quote from? What's the context?

My sig quote is from a yahoo interview of ozzie

And why not, by shielding someone, you simply force them to explore it unsafely on their own. Parents dont listen to their kids anymore and then wonder why they end up fucking up. A kid listening to slayer is not gonna warp his mind, an overly conservative parent who doesnt know much and forbids her children from listening to it because someone says its inappropriate will warp them because it will start a slippery slope.

Back to my original commentary on who decides, i have a recording of back to the future from FOX way back in the late 80s early 90s, prob 1989, "jesus christ" was a censored word, instead of saying "Jesus christ", they have him say "Jeez louise you just incinerated einstine!" In today's day, Jesus christ in that form is not seen as a major word issue

So who decides in a society that is constantly evolving. SImpsons had another funny comment on it "Fox became a hardcore sex channel so gradually, nobody even noticed"

I actually don't know why he would be a good president, no other candidate really catches my attention. I'll be voting for the Republican guy anyways. :shrug:

Thats stupid as well, vote for what candidate fits your ideals and policy you want, not because of what party or look he has.

If obama fits my policy, i will vote him, i was gonna be voting mccain but romney is saying some things i tend to agree with, sadly people will NOT vote for him for being mormon

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:39 PM
My sig quote is from a yahoo interview of ozzie

And why not, by shielding someone, you simply force them to explore it unsafely on their own. Parents dont listen to their kids anymore and then wonder why they end up fucking up. A kid listening to slayer is not gonna warp his mind, an overly conservative parent who doesnt know much and forbids her children from listening to it because someone says its inappropriate will warp them because it will start a slippery slope.

Back to my original commentary on who decides, i have a recording of back to the future from FOX way back in the late 80s early 90s, prob 1989, "jesus christ" was a censored word, instead of saying "Jesus christ", they have him say "Jeez louise you just incinerated einstine!" In today's day, Jesus christ in that form is not seen as a major word issue

So who decides in a society that is constantly evolving. SImpsons had another funny comment on it "Fox became a hardcore sex channel so gradually, nobody even noticed"



Thats stupid as well, vote for what candidate fits your ideals and policy you want, not because of what party or look he has.

If obama fits my policy, i will vote him, i was gonna be voting mccain but romney is saying some things i tend to agree with, sadly people will NOT vote for him for being mormon

I see your point and do understand your point. In fact, I agree with you. I just don't see the harm. I guess I'm thinking of the 6 year old kid who talks his parents into buying a very inappropriate rap CD. And well, I already stated how good parenting doesn't look like the norm in my world.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 08:40 PM
I have to disagree with you here, SFV. I think it is my job as a parent to determine what will fill my child's brain. I have 16 and 13 year-old girls and we do not allow them to listen to explicit music. They are also not allowed on the interwebs without supervision and MySpace is definitely out. As is IM on the computer. But they do get a cellphone and they can IM on that. And they are well adjusted Christian young ladies. We only get the first 18 years and we have to make it count...

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:41 PM
I have to disagree with you here, SFV. I think it is my job as a parent to determine what will fill my child's brain. I have 16 and 13 year-old girls and we do not allow them to listen to explicit music. They are also not allowed on the interwebs without supervision and MySpace is definitely out. As is IM on the computer. But they do get a cellphone and they can IM on that. And they are well adjusted Christian young ladies. We only get the first 18 years and we have to make it count...

There is plenty of time for exposure after 18. :eek:

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 08:45 PM
True that, Val. But they can make their own decisions then. We just try to equip them for that time the best that we can...

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 08:48 PM
True that, Val. But they can make their own decisions then. We just try to equip them for that time the best that we can...

Holy shit. Dad? Is that you? I swear he gave me the same speech when I was 18.

Spider_Pig
08-15-2007, 09:03 PM
Thats stupid as well, vote for what candidate fits your ideals and policy you want, not because of what party or look he has.

If obama fits my policy, i will vote him, i was gonna be voting mccain but romney is saying some things i tend to agree with, sadly people will NOT vote for him for being mormon
That's why I had the :shrug: smiley. I still don't know who I like best. Hell, I can't vote anyways. Barrack does strike me as a good guy and a possible good leader. I always said before he entered the race that he should.

So all I have to say is :shrug:

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 09:05 PM
Holy shit. Dad? Is that you? I swear he gave me the same speech when I was 18.

Welcome home, honey!

Unregistered
08-15-2007, 09:08 PM
Hell, I can't vote anyways.

Convicted felon... :whistle:

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 09:14 PM
That's why I had the :shrug: smiley. I still don't know who I like best. Hell, I can't vote anyways. Barrack does strike me as a good guy and a possible good leader. I always said before he entered the race that he should.

So all I have to say is :shrug:


Try this (http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008)

Even if you can't vote, it might be good to know who is a good match with your issues.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 09:36 PM
Interesting quizme.

I came up 53% Tancredo, 48% Duncan Hunter and 45% Duncan Hines

maurice
08-15-2007, 09:37 PM
AQ presence in Iraq before 9/11 = very small
AQ presence in Iraq now = fucking huge

I don't consider that meaningful "progress."

It's like W bragging that he reduced the deficit, when he's the one who blew it up to record levels in the 1st place.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-15-2007, 09:41 PM
I was gonna do a "fixed it for ya" but I REALLY hate that. So I'm not gonna...

maurice
08-15-2007, 09:44 PM
Nobody scored > 53% for me. Obama, Clinton, Richardson, McCain, Gudy, and the flat-earth right scored below 40%.

StockdaleforVeep
08-15-2007, 09:45 PM
I have to disagree with you here, SFV. I think it is my job as a parent to determine what will fill my child's brain. I have 16 and 13 year-old girls and we do not allow them to listen to explicit music. They are also not allowed on the interwebs without supervision and MySpace is definitely out. As is IM on the computer. But they do get a cellphone and they can IM on that. And they are well adjusted Christian young ladies. We only get the first 18 years and we have to make it count...


What you deem as explicit may not be to others

Hell, you can say teaching history should be censored cuz its explicit at times

True that, Val. But they can make their own decisions then. We just try to equip them for that time the best that we can...

So u expect to shield them from badness and once they are 18, just throw them to the wolves?

Try this (http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008)

Even if you can't vote, it might be good to know who is a good match with your issues.

Jim gilmour, tommy thompson, mccain

maurice
08-15-2007, 09:51 PM
Thompson dropped out.

Let's talk Kosovo. That was his Iraq

G.H.W. Bush's Iraq, maybe.

Palehose13
08-15-2007, 10:21 PM
Kucinich 65%, Dodd 63%, Edwards 63%

MeanFish
08-15-2007, 10:25 PM
Foreign relations, yes, he was good at shmoozing. Foreign policy, not so much. Name ONE policy that he enacted that had any teeth to it. Let's talk Kosovo. That was his Iraq, but he was such a media darling they igonred the bullshit that was going on.

That's nice. I was responding to a quote that directly mentioned foreign relations. Don't you dare think for a minute I'm going to let you re-frame my quote into something that it isn't. :mad:

Btw...Kucinich 48%, Clinton 43%, Richardson 43%.

Less than half for the leader. Matches my enthusiasm for this crowd. lol.

Prope
08-15-2007, 11:41 PM
Now about Obama...he's not my guy. I could like him in the future, but he's too green right now. I could go for a little Edwards or Kucinich though.
I'm a Richardson guy, but I'm guessing after a couple of nights ago, you couldn't be apart of his bandwagon.

You would think that to be the case, but it was not evident from that administration's dealings with enemies of the republic. After all, nobody is
bending over backwards to pat Clintongore on the back for their mastery of foreign relations.
Except for the mobs of supporters anytime he travels out of the country, right?

:shrug:

Look at the idiots posing this question
http://www.wttw.com/img/marymitchell.jpg
"He doesn't even look black."

another report on Wednesday — which got little coverage — noted that U.S. and Iraqi forces have now killed or captured 75% of al-Qaida's leadership in Iraq.

Linky (http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=272070827120047)

Since the media only seems to report on the bad parts of Iraq, I'm puzzled as to why I have only heard about this (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=19616&sectionid=3510203) while searching just now on google.

And why not, by shielding someone, you simply force them to explore it unsafely on their own. Parents dont listen to their kids anymore and then wonder why they end up fucking up. A kid listening to slayer is not gonna warp his mind, an overly conservative parent who doesnt know much and forbids her children from listening to it because someone says its inappropriate will warp them because it will start a slippery slope
Le sigh

this again from the SAME guy who said nobody should worry about meaningful relationships in life.

gbergman
08-16-2007, 12:46 AM
We aren't air raiding villages of civilians. GMAFB

Palehose13
08-16-2007, 07:34 AM
We aren't air raiding villages of civilians. GMAFB

Nah, we decided to do it on the ground this time.

3D23
08-16-2007, 07:49 AM
That's nice. I was responding to a quote that directly mentioned foreign relations. Don't you dare think for a minute I'm going to let you re-frame my quote into something that it isn't. :mad:


Stop it with the mean face, or I shall strike you down where you stand. ;)

I was pointing out the fact that he didn't have any real foreign policy, and thought by dragging people into an awkward moment at Camp David that everything would be hunky-dory. You would be surprised by the amount of people who actually think this guy had GREAT foreign policy, and translate that into foreign relations.

:shrug:

CaptainBallz
08-16-2007, 09:29 AM
Kucinich - 78%

Dodd- 65%

Gravel -63%

buehrlebabe
08-16-2007, 09:59 AM
www.noendinsightmovie.com

now playing in chicago

StockdaleforVeep
08-16-2007, 10:16 AM
I'm a Richardson guy, but I'm guessing after a couple of nights ago, you couldn't be apart of his bandwagon.


Except for the mobs of supporters anytime he travels out of the country, right?


http://www.wttw.com/img/marymitchell.jpg
"He doesn't even look black."


Since the media only seems to report on the bad parts of Iraq, I'm puzzled as to why I have only heard about this (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=19616&sectionid=3510203) while searching just now on google.


Le sigh

this again from the SAME guy who said nobody should worry about meaningful relationships in life.


Nein, i said people have issues who are dependent and need relationships in life

Palehose13
08-16-2007, 10:25 AM
Nein, i said people have issues who are dependent and need relationships in life

So if you are independent, yet in a healthy relationship that is ok in yer book?

gbergman
08-16-2007, 12:06 PM
Nah, we decided to do it on the ground this time.

My neighbor just got back from a 13 month deployment there. All they were doing was humanitarian missions. Afghanistan is not Iraq and if they were doing it on the ground there would be more US deaths there and we would here about it on the news.

maurice
08-16-2007, 12:31 PM
US troops also are viewed in a much more positive light in Afghanistan (unless you're a poppy farmer or religious nutjob) than they are in most of Iraq. This certainly is not a coincidence.

SABRSox
08-16-2007, 04:28 PM
80% Kucinich

Palehose13
08-16-2007, 05:49 PM
80% Kucinich

Kucinich rocks. :shrug:

Spider_Pig
08-16-2007, 06:22 PM
Convicted felon... :whistle:
Meh, I wish. Well I will be able to vote once the elections finally come up, I just havn't thought about it that much.

I got 40% Giuliani.:shrug:

PEOverbrook
08-16-2007, 06:37 PM
Obama's too inexperienced and it shows. BUT in another 8 years, he could make a super president.
Unfortunately, that leaves Hillary...and I just can't see her winning. But, I can't see most of those right-wingers winning either.

soxwon
08-16-2007, 07:14 PM
Hunter-Brownback-gilmore

StockdaleforVeep
08-16-2007, 07:52 PM
So if you are independent, yet in a healthy relationship that is ok in yer book?

I was not discussing healthy relationships or not

I am discussing the people who find the need to be in a relationship constantly as a way to define themselves. Just like the people who define themselves constantly as single or taken or whatnot, nobody other than yourself(the royal yourself) cares. Its possible to be happy and "normal" and not be in a relationship but society has become the stigma that if someone is single or something, something must be wrong with them and whatnot.

All i was saying was its not a priority and it shouldnt be used to define who you are. Too many people ive met and know who's happiness is dependent on being in a relationship and its sad and rather fucking pathetic

Palehose13
08-16-2007, 08:28 PM
I was not discussing healthy relationships or not

I am discussing the people who find the need to be in a relationship constantly as a way to define themselves. Just like the people who define themselves constantly as single or taken or whatnot, nobody other than yourself(the royal yourself) cares. Its possible to be happy and "normal" and not be in a relationship but society has become the stigma that if someone is single or something, something must be wrong with them and whatnot.

All i was saying was its not a priority and it shouldnt be used to define who you are. Too many people ive met and know who's happiness is dependent on being in a relationship and its sad and rather fucking pathetic

I understand and agree with you completely. I honestly wasn't trying to be antagonistic with that previous post. I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder cause I missed you while you were gone. Shit...next I'll be asking you to be a sperm donor. :ohmy:

StockdaleforVeep
08-16-2007, 08:51 PM
I understand and agree with you completely. I honestly wasn't trying to be antagonistic with that previous post. I guess absence makes the heart grow fonder cause I missed you while you were gone. Shit...next I'll be asking you to be a sperm donor. :ohmy:

i do have ample supply

Only thing is im not jerkin em out so get yer wrist warmed up

Pick a name, Buddy
08-16-2007, 09:13 PM
It doesn't get any more romantic than this, folks...

Bonzosa
08-16-2007, 10:38 PM
I am disturbed by the results of the survey - 48% Hillary.
I will not vote for Hillary.

Pick a name, Buddy
08-16-2007, 10:41 PM
Bless you!

Bonzosa
08-16-2007, 10:42 PM
I'm having a political identity crisis!

Palehose13
08-17-2007, 08:05 AM
I am disturbed by the results of the survey - 48% Hillary.
I will not vote for Hillary.

Why not?

CaptainBallz
08-17-2007, 08:36 AM
I'm having a political identity crisis!

Who'd you end up with, Romney?

Spider_Pig
08-17-2007, 02:38 PM
I got 35% Hillary, which suprised me because I don't really like her. :shrug:

Palehose13
08-17-2007, 03:00 PM
I got 35% Hillary, which suprised me because I don't really like her. :shrug:


That was your top match?

Spider_Pig
08-17-2007, 03:17 PM
No Giuliani was my top at 45% I think, I posted it earlier..

CaptainBallz
08-17-2007, 04:04 PM
I got 35% Hillary, which suprised me because I don't really like her. :shrug:

35% isn't necessarily a "good" match.

Palehose13
08-17-2007, 04:30 PM
35% isn't necessarily a "good" match.

Neither is 45%. I 'm guessing a majority of his responses were "no opinion". Take a real stand on something spider pig.