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gbergman
06-13-2007, 02:30 PM
There is a guy at work named David, aand he is a democrat and before today he didn't know I am a registered Republican. So he says," I don't like Republicans." I asked them why this is and he responded with because we "all" support George Bush and the war and are evil people.

I told him I am a Republican so do you not like me now even though we have gotten along great for as long as I have worked here? He said not as much. I told him he is ridiculous and what he is saying is ridiculous.

I told him not liking someone because they are Republican is the same as not liking someone because they are black, mexican, asian. He said no it isn't and, I said look. You hear a person is Republican and you associate them with bad, same as a racist person hearing someone is black or mexican or whatever and not liking them because of it. You aren't examing that persons character or what they have done in their life. I'm republican but there are democratic issues that I support. Just because someone is republican doesn't mean they are pro Iraq or Bush or vote straight republican as I don't I vote mixed ticket. I don't agree with the war in Iraq but I think pulling out is wrong. I don't care for Bush but I support him because he is the president of the United States and had John Kerry won I would support him because he is our president. What you are doing is stereotyping Republicans as being all mini Bush's without even saying one word to them. My dad is a Republican, served in the Marine Corps for 26 years and served in Vietnam but he didn't vote for George Bush sr. the second time around when Clinton first ran and he doesn't like George Bush jr at all he just says George is lucky he was a better candidate then Kerry. He also doesn't support the war in Iraq and thinks George Bush is potentialy one of the biggest mistakes this countries had.

I went on to tell him also I have friends and family who are Democrats and I don't dislike them because they are Dems. I am somewhat religous and 2 of my best friends who are like brothers to me are Atheist and I don't dislike them because of it. Saying I don't like a person because they're a Republican is ignorant and I thought Democrats are supposed to be the rational ones. To close I said if you no longer like me because I am a Republican then fine Fuck you and I walked off.

Does anyone agree with the point I was trying to make in my little speech. I didn't see him the restof my shift so I don't know if that talked some sense into him or what.

SFS04
06-13-2007, 02:55 PM
I support this post :thumbsup:

CaptainBallz
06-13-2007, 03:01 PM
Judging somebody merely by party affiliation is rather silly since no party is all things to all people within it...
It takes a deeper analysis about how, exactly, people rationalize their positions on various issues to judge their like-ability....

It's like the whole "I want to drink beer with George Bush" thing... i might actually enjoy a casual hangout with the guy, but goddam is he a cocksucker on a much more profound level. We need to know the subtleties of people.
Not only do we need the subtleties, but we also need to factor in how active one is in implementing their well thought out or not-so-well thought out positions...
To me, anybody that actually rationalized voting GW in 2004 has an all too suspicious character flaw. I might be able to hang out with you, maybe even like you, but there's something there deep inside of you that, if it all went down tomorrow, I'd have to be ready to shank you. It's just the fact of the matter.
There's "hangin around the BBQ" liking somebody, then there's the "I like the makeup of your character based on your worldview" liking somebody, which is a much deeper read... And altogether more important.

But as far as a mere Republican/Democrat split.. that's dumb

Prope
06-13-2007, 03:08 PM
If I am in disagreement with somebody on a topic, I don't hate them. As a matter of fact, it takes quite a lot for me to hate you. What I do hate, are people who hold an opinion just to have the opinion. For example, take Efil.....
He claimed that George W. Bush was the biggest mass-murderer of all-time. I in know way like the guys policies, but to claim that is wrong. Add to the fact that Efil had no evidence whatsoever, I find that to be ignorant - which is the biggest thing that bothers me. I don't care if you disagree with me, but do not argue with me for the sake of arguing, and at least have something that can back up your opinion. Otherwise, you are wasting my time.

Doug Simpson
06-13-2007, 03:51 PM
Worth a try, I think.

zmz
06-13-2007, 03:54 PM
Worth a try, I think.

FYI, 16 out of your last 17 posts have been :shrug: or "worth a try I think"

SFS04
06-13-2007, 03:56 PM
All his posts are "worth a try, I think", ":shrug:" or an imitation of Daver.

You're like the subtle Chips.

Sir Realist
06-13-2007, 04:53 PM
I agree with the initial post. I also believe the Albanians should give old boy his watch back and stop shitting and pissing in their own front yards.

Iwritecode
06-13-2007, 05:28 PM
My best friend is a life-long Cubs fan.

Amazing but true. :shrug:

StockdaleforVeep
06-13-2007, 06:00 PM
If I am in disagreement with somebody on a topic, I don't hate them. As a matter of fact, it takes quite a lot for me to hate you. What I do hate, are people who hold an opinion just to have the opinion. For example, take Efil.....
He claimed that George W. Bush was the biggest mass-murderer of all-time. I in know way like the guys policies, but to claim that is wrong. Add to the fact that Efil had no evidence whatsoever, I find that to be ignorant - which is the biggest thing that bothers me. I don't care if you disagree with me, but do not argue with me for the sake of arguing, and at least have something that can back up your opinion. Otherwise, you are wasting my time.

Whatever happened to that troll?

and berg, what happened after yer whole speech to the dem?

gbergman
06-13-2007, 07:08 PM
I didn't see the Dem the rest of the day. My black friend Yolanda who is a democrat agreed with me completley and the manager who watched just smiled and walked away. The other viewers just started cracking up and I went back to work.

fquaye14ten
06-14-2007, 07:23 AM
If I am in disagreement with somebody on a topic, I don't hate them. As a matter of fact, it takes quite a lot for me to hate you. What I do hate, are people who hold an opinion just to have the opinion. For example, take Efil.....
He claimed that George W. Bush was the biggest mass-murderer of all-time. I in know way like the guys policies, but to claim that is wrong. Add to the fact that Efil had no evidence whatsoever, I find that to be ignorant - which is the biggest thing that bothers me. I don't care if you disagree with me, but do not argue with me for the sake of arguing, and at least have something that can back up your opinion. Otherwise, you are wasting my time.

i hate you for your irrational ND hatred.

but asides from that i don't hate people b/c of party affiliation.

I would say this bergman: the reason hating republicans b/c they're republicans is not on par with racial hatred is that people have a choice in their ideology.

there are lots of people with such strong codes of belief that they feel that anyone disagreeing with them should either change their mind or be hated.

for instance, if you had a friend who you found out supported child molestation, you wouldn't like them as much any more, probably. I wouldn't. I'm not saying anything in partisan politics is tantamount to supporting child molestation, I'm just trying to explain the mentality of your friend and show how it differs from racialism.

maurice
06-14-2007, 08:04 AM
I don't think that one should hate all Republicans, but I don't think it's the equivalent of racism either. Party affiliation is a choice. Also, I hate Illinois Nazis.

Sir Realist
06-14-2007, 01:54 PM
I don't think that one should hate all Republicans, but I don't think it's the equivalent of racism either. Party affiliation is a choice. Also, I hate Illinois Nazis.

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StockdaleforVeep
06-14-2007, 02:48 PM
i hate you for your irrational ND hatred.

but asides from that i don't hate people b/c of party affiliation.

I would say this bergman: the reason hating republicans b/c they're republicans is not on par with racial hatred is that people have a choice in their ideology.

there are lots of people with such strong codes of belief that they feel that anyone disagreeing with them should either change their mind or be hated.

for instance, if you had a friend who you found out supported child molestation, you wouldn't like them as much any more, probably. I wouldn't. I'm not saying anything in partisan politics is tantamount to supporting child molestation, I'm just trying to explain the mentality of your friend and show how it differs from racialism.

stop being a god damned propphobe

Prope
06-14-2007, 02:58 PM
i hate you for your irrational ND hatred.
No you don't :hello: