Fat People cause higher premiums

[Dan Mega]

This is why health insurance costs are soaring, and why fit and healthy people like myself shouldn't have to pay these absurd prices.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070424/ap_on_he_me/diet_obesity_costs;_ylt=An0E0bC4cEDJJIvRGna0yP3MWM 0F

[LuvSox]

Just because you are an American does not mean you have to eat like one.

[kittle42]

Fat people suck.

I love eating. I eat tons. I love drinking. I drink tons. But I work out 4-6 days a week to counteract it, despite my horribly busy schedule at work. Is this the healthiest plan? No. Does it keep me under 200 pounds? Yes.

In my opinion, anyone can do the same, unless they have a physical limitation, and I do not mean being fat as a physical limitation.

[Myrtle]

American food can be pretty fucking disgusting if you think about it (aka fast food)... more fat and calories than anything nutritional what-so-ever... Americans are brilliant. :jagoff:

[SoxFan76]

Fat people suck.

I love eating. I eat tons. I love drinking. I drink tons. But I work out 4-6 days a week to counteract it, despite my horribly busy schedule at work. Is this the healthiest plan? No. Does it keep me under 200 pounds? Yes.

In my opinion, anyone can do the same, unless they have a physical limitation, and I do not mean being fat as a physical limitation.

I take offense to this Mr. Speling Bee Champion. I am proudly 285 pounds and I consider myself a fairly fit man. Rethink your smart ass comments before you spurt them out.

PS, I got some man curves, but they get me laid. So eat that.

[fquaye14ten]

I take offense to this Mr. Speling Bee Champion. I am proudly 285 pounds and I consider myself a fairly fit man. Rethink your smart ass comments before you spurt them out.

PS, I got some man curves, but they get me laid. So eat that.

um dude, most people aren't 6 foot +

I would guess that Kittle is around 5'8", which means that he probably wants to stay as far under 2 bills as possible.

Heck, I'm about a half inch under 6' (according to my doctor...I always thought I was 5'11"), I'm a big dude, AND I still manage to stay well under 2 bills (190ish).

Most people are not gentle giants like you and the albino

[kittle42]

I love drinking, I drink tons. I don't eat tons, but I satisfy my desires and eat when need be. I work out exactly zero times a week, unless you count the two mile walk to work and the two mile walk home from work. Is this healthy? Who knows? Does it keep me at 137? Fuckin' A it does.

Bring forth my harem and we shall build strong children with our chromosomes and have sex whilst doing so.

I am jealous of you metabo-riffic folks.

[kittle42]

I take offense to this Mr. Speling Bee Champion. I am proudly 285 pounds and I consider myself a fairly fit man. Rethink your smart ass comments before you spurt them out.

PS, I got some man curves, but they get me laid. So eat that.

See below.

um dude, most people aren't 6 foot +

I would guess that Kittle is around 5'8", which means that he probably wants to stay as far under 2 bills as possible.

Heck, I'm about a half inch under 6' (according to my doctor...I always thought I was 5'11"), I'm a big dude, AND I still manage to stay well under 2 bills (190ish).

Most people are not gentle giants like you and the albino

Thank you. My fault for not explaining that I'm 5'9" and of average musculature. I am not saying everyone over 200 pounds is fat. I was just speaking as to my own body type. My mistake for not being more specific.

[1951Campbell]

Wait, you mean insurance subsidizes the unhealthy to the deteriment of the healthy? Stop the presses!

[Iwritecode]

Fat people suck.

I love eating. I eat tons. I love drinking. I drink tons. But I work out 4-6 days a week to counteract it, despite my horribly busy schedule at work. Is this the healthiest plan? No. Does it keep me under 200 pounds? Yes.

In my opinion, anyone can do the same, unless they have a physical limitation, and I do not mean being fat as a physical limitation.

Time and money plays a big part into it. I don't have a lot of either one.

[fquaye14ten]

Wait, you mean insurance subsidizes the unhealthy to the deteriment of the healthy? Stop the presses!

why is it every time i see that avvie, i just know it's going to be a post of assholery?



(eagerly awaiting "pot kettle" response :rolleyes:)

[SoxFan76]

See below.



Thank you. My fault for not explaining that I'm 5'9" and of average musculature. I am not saying everyone over 200 pounds is fat. I was just speaking as to my own body type. My mistake for not being more specific.

I'm an asshole when I'm drunk. I cannot have a conversation without getting angry. I apologize for my actions, and don't take it personally. :)

And yes, I am 6'5". So I carry my weight fairly well.

[maurice]

It's not just the fatties. Also consider women with all their pap smears and mamograms and giving birth and all that other crazy chick stuff. The cost of all that shit really adds up.

Plus, all the old fuckers with their medicare and prescription drug benefit and quadruple bypasses and all that old fart stuff. Most of these MFers don't even have jobs and collect welfare checks from the federal government.

Women also live significantly longer than men, which means they are a majority of the fat old welfare collectors.

The morale of the story is that healthy, hard-working men are subsidizing lazy fat old women. That's sexism and Communism at their worst.

[maurice]

I never understood the argument that certain people are too poor to be skinny. Poor people in other countries are skinny as hell, because they don't have enoguh money to buy fattening things like bacon, booze, and desert. Meanwhile vegetables, beans, rice, and noodles are cheap as hell.

[Myrtle]

I never understood the argument that certain people are too poor to be skinny. Poor people in other countries are skinny as hell, because they don't have enoguh money to buy fattening things like bacon, booze, and desert. Meanwhile vegetables, beans, rice, and noodles are cheap as hell.

A burger on the McDonald's dollar menu is much cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods.

[1951Campbell]

A burger on the McDonald's dollar menu is much cheaper than shopping at Whole Foods.

And there's a salad on the dollar menu, too.

[Myrtle]

And there's a salad on the dollar menu, too.

I'm not denying that there IS moderately healthy food out there that is cheap, I'm just saying that I can understand the point that it's difficult for non-wealthy people to afford decent food that won't make them fat.

[1951Campbell]

I'm not denying that there IS moderately healthy food out there that is cheap, I'm just saying that I can understand the point that it's difficult for non-wealthy people to afford decent food that won't make them fat.

Well, yeah, if you think the only place you can find such food at Whole Paycheck. Fact is, fruits, veggies and grains usually cost less per pound than, say, beef or chicken. Beans and rice with a side salad is cheaper and better for you than a burger, and you can shop for such a meal outside of Whole Foods. It's not that hard. :shrug:

[Timmy D's]

I'm 6'0", Deuce and a quarter lbs, and my PS Gitanos fit great!!!

[Palehose13]

Fat people suck.

I love eating. I eat tons. I love drinking. I drink tons. But I work out 4-6 days a week to counteract it, despite my horribly busy schedule at work. Is this the healthiest plan? No. Does it keep me under 200 pounds? Yes.

In my opinion, anyone can do the same, unless they have a physical limitation, and I do not mean being fat as a physical limitation.

I agree. I need to lose a few and I try. I am eating better, but I do need to make time to exercise. Too many people blame their metabolism when they have never had it checked or never even tried to lose weight.

With that said, I think weight is a poor indicator of someone's health. BMI is also very poor (and old) tool. I think muscle mass has to be taken into account. For example, I am 5'2" but I do have a fair amount of muscle mass (topped off with a layer of adipose tissue). There is no way I would be "healthy" at 110 (my suggested weight). I am probably at my fittest when I am around 140, which some would say is overweight (or even obese) for someone who is 5'2".

In regards to insurance premiums, yes being overweight cause more health problems. However, I think it would be in the insurance companies best interest to offer discounted (or include in the plan) gym memberships or cover going to a personal trainer, etc. to help motivate people (or take away excuses) for staying obese.

I am jealous of you metabo-riffic folks.

He's still young.

[CaptainBallz]

Well, yeah, if you think the only place you can find such food at Whole Paycheck. Fact is, fruits, veggies and grains usually cost less per pound than, say, beef or chicken. Beans and rice with a side salad is cheaper and better for you than a burger, and you can shop for such a meal outside of Whole Foods. It's not that hard. :shrug:

Yeah, but do those places advertise with an adorbale cast of cuddly characters and hip-hop rapping music??

Didn't think so.

[kittle42]

He's still young.

Excellent point. Chips, in 5 years or so, I honestly hope you maintain your body's natural high metabolic rate. But if not, beware. Those 4 a.m. burritos really start killing you.

[Iwritecode]

In regards to insurance premiums, yes being overweight cause more health problems. However, I think it would be in the insurance companies best interest to offer discounted (or include in the plan) gym memberships or cover going to a personal trainer, etc. to help motivate people (or take away excuses) for staying obese.

My company offers free membership to a health club that's about 5 miles south of my work. That means it's only 45 miles from my actual house.

To compensate for commuters like me, they offer reimbursement for a health club or gym closer to home. A whopping $100 a year.

[Palehose13]

Excellent point. Chips, in 5 years or so, I honestly hope you maintain your body's natural high metabolic rate. But if not, beware. Those 4 a.m. burritos really start killing you.

No doubt. I was skinny the first 25 years of my life. I was the person that people hated because I could eat a ton and not gain a pound. Then time caught up with me. My gut didn't for til I was 26 and it was slow (7-10 lbs. per year). At first going from 125 to 140 wasn't a big deal and hardly noticable, but that extra pound a month adds up after 6 years. :(

[Palehose13]

My company offers free membership to a health club that's about 5 miles south of my work. That means it's only 45 miles from my actual house.

To compensate for commuters like me, they offer reimbursement for a health club or gym closer to home. A whopping $100 a year.

You could go before or after work. 20 minutes of cardio and 15 minutes of lifting may not seem like a lot, but coupled with a healthy diet it would go a long way.

For the record, I don't think you are obese unless you gained 100 pounds since the last time I saw you. ;)

[Myrtle]

Well, yeah, if you think the only place you can find such food at Whole Paycheck. Fact is, fruits, veggies and grains usually cost less per pound than, say, beef or chicken. Beans and rice with a side salad is cheaper and better for you than a burger, and you can shop for such a meal outside of Whole Foods. It's not that hard. :shrug:

I agree, it's not hard and a lot of times rice and beans can be more cheap than a burger... but people need education to understand that, know what to shop for, where to shop for it, and they need basic transportation to do so.

Another issue is that sometimes low income families don't have the same kind of access to healthy food that middle class people do. The shelter I work at is in a pretty low income neighborhood and there isn't a single grocery store within walking distance. There's a 711, a bunch of fast food joints, and then Walmart is about 2 miles away. So, for the women at the shelter who don't have cars... where are they gonna go? Taco Bell it is...

Anyway, I agree with you Campbell, it doesn't necessarily cost more to eat healthy but there are other obstacles in the way that people who aren't in poverty situations may not understand.

[JohnBasedowYoda]

I love laughing at fat people. They're so jolly!

[Palehose13]

Anyway, I agree with you Campbell, it doesn't necessarily cost more to eat healthy but there are other obstacles in the way that people who aren't in poverty situations may not understand.

Very true. Educate, educate, educate!

[LuvSox]

No doubt. I was skinny the first 25 years of my life. I was the person that people hated because I could eat a ton and not gain a pound. Then time caught up with me. My gut didn't for til I was 26 and it was slow (7-10 lbs. per year). At first going from 125 to 140 wasn't a big deal and hardly noticable, but that extra pound a month adds up after 6 years. :(

I have gained about 70 pounds in the 20 years since high school. Of course that's all rugged sexiness. And 10 pounds of cock.

[Myrtle]

I have gained about 70 pounds in the 20 years since high school. Of course that's all rugged sexiness. And 10 pounds of cock.

:ohmy:

[LuvSox]

:ohmy:

http://www.voetsek.com/lighter_side/images/man_with_huge_cock.jpg


Man with large cock.

[JohnBasedowYoda]

I'm not denying that there IS moderately healthy food out there that is cheap, I'm just saying that I can understand the point that it's difficult for non-wealthy people to afford decent food that won't make them fat.


There's guys selling watermellons and fruit out of the back of trucks on Western Ave right NOW for DIRT CHEAP

[Iwritecode]

You could go before or after work. 20 minutes of cardio and 15 minutes of lifting may not seem like a lot, but coupled with a healthy diet it would go a long way.

For the record, I don't think you are obese unless you gained 100 pounds since the last time I saw you. ;)

I'm already gone from my house a good 11 hours a day. I really hate to add another 30 minutes onto that total.

A healthier diet would certainly help but I'm not sure a healthy diet for me = a healthy diet for the kids. I would think they need some of that fat because their metabolism is higher and they're burning more energy at school than I am sitting at my desk.

Then there are the nights where we literally have 30 minutes to find something to eat in between running errands, doing homework, etc... Those are usually the nights we end up at McDonald's.

[maurice]

I really doubt that McDonalds is any easier to get to than a grocery store. That's certainly not the case here in Chicago, and we invented McDonalds. It's true that there are very few Dominickses and Jewels and Whole Foodsies in poor neighborhoods, but there are tons of no-name grocery stores who get their stuff from Certified Foods. Mexican neighborhoods in particular have tons of places that sell fresh fruit, veggies, bean, rice, etc. at low prices.

For breakfast, I had some yogurt and some bran cereal. Right now, I'm eating a turkey sandwich with mustard that I brought to work in a brown paper bag. Later today, I'll eat some chicken soup and maybe some cottage cheese. I'll also lift some cheap-ass dumbells at home for about 20 minutes. None of these things are particularly time consuming. None of these food items are hard-to-find or expensive. I'm fairly certain that I spend much, much less money on food than your average obese individual. I'm absolutely positive that the average poor obese person eats at McDonalds and the like WAY more often than I do.
:shrug:

[JohnBasedowYoda]

I'm already gone from my house a good 11 hours a day. I really hate to add another 30 minutes onto that total.

A healthier diet would certainly help but I'm not sure a healthy diet for me = a healthy diet for the kids. I would think they need some of that fat because their metabolism is higher and they're burning more energy at school than I am sitting at my desk.

Then there are the nights where we literally have 30 minutes to find something to eat in between running errands, doing homework, etc... Those are usually the nights we end up at McDonald's.


Life is a fuckin rat race:mad: :mad:

Let's all go live in the Wild and cut loose the shackles keeping us down:rock:

[maurice]

Instead of McD, BK, Wendy's, White Castle, etc. hit Subway or Boston Market. Avoid beef and pork on the menu and order turkey or chicken. No mayo. No fried chips. No soda. No desert. Get as many fruits and veggies as you can find.

Kids definitely need fat. A handy solution is whole or 2% milk, which also contains lots of vitamins and protein.

[Iwritecode]

Life is a fuckin rat race:mad: :mad:

Let's all go live in the Wild and cut loose the shackles keeping us down:rock:

Yea but you know at least one person would change their mind at the last minute and then go and steal all of our stuff. I like my stuff... :(

[JohnBasedowYoda]

Yea but you know at least one person would change their mind at the last minute and then go and steal all of our stuff. I like my stuff... :(


I'm sorry, you need to learn to leave your stuff behind.

[Iwritecode]

Instead of McD, BK, Wendy's, White Castle, etc. hit Subway or Boston Market. Avoid beef and pork on the menu and order turkey or chicken. No mayo. No fried chips. No soda. No desert. Get as many fruits and veggies as you can find.

Kids definitely need fat. A handy solution is whole or 2% milk, which also contains lots of vitamins and protein.

I just went to a Boston Market in Schaumburg on Sunday. Then on the way home some jackass decided to pull out of a parking lot as I was trying to pull in. Bent my back wheel and scraped up my bumper. Ruined my entire Sunday night and most of Monday.

We had to get the car towed home and had to have somebody come and pick us up because there was no way we could fit 5 people into the tow truck. Now I'm dealing with insurance companies, an auto repair shop and a rental car. :mad:

[JohnBasedowYoda]

I just went to a Boston Market in Schaumburg on Sunday. Then on the way home some jackass decided to pull out of a parking lot as I was trying to pull in. Bent my back wheel and scraped up my bumper. Ruined my entire Sunday night and most of Monday.

We had to get the car towed home and had to have somebody come and pick us up because there was no way we could fit 5 people into the tow truck. Now I'm dealing with insurance companies, an auto repair shop and a rental car. :mad:


That rude driver was hired by Area Taco Bell managers! Never eat healthy Again!!!


Seriously Taco Bell =:rock:

[Palehose13]

I really doubt that McDonalds is any easier to get to than a grocery store. That's certainly not the case here in Chicago, and we invented McDonalds. It's true that there are very few Dominickses and Jewels and Whole Foodsies in poor neighborhoods, but there are tons of no-name grocery stores who get their stuff from Certified Foods. Mexican neighborhoods in particular have tons of places that sell fresh fruit, veggies, bean, rice, etc. at low prices.

For breakfast, I had some yogurt and some bran cereal. Right now, I'm eating a turkey sandwich with mustard that I brought to work in a brown paper bag. Later today, I'll eat some chicken soup and maybe some cottage cheese. I'll also lift some cheap-ass dumbells at home for about 20 minutes. None of these things are particularly time consuming. None of these food items are hard-to-find or expensive. I'm fairly certain that I spend much, much less money on food than your average obese individual. I'm absolutely positive that the average poor obese person eats at McDonalds and the like WAY more often than I do.
:shrug:

While what you wrote is certainly true, from what I have seen there is a tendency to have the McD's, BK's, Taco Bell, Checkers, various fried chicken places, etc. in the poorer neighborhoods than the subways and boston markets. Of course, these businesses are profitable in those areas because they offer large amounts of food fast, tasty (according to a lot of people) and cheap so they are in demand. However, if people in those areas can get some education about diet, health, etc. MAYBE there will be a change. A lot of those people have no idea. Hell, a typical breakfast for my students is a bottle of soda and a bag or two of chips (preferably flaming hots). If they don't learn when they are young, when will they learn?

Insurance companies might want to put more money into nutritional education so that they won't have to put out so much money for diabetes, bypass surgery, etc. later.

As far as exercise, I agree. It is pretty easy to try and incorporate more exercixe into your day. You don't have to go to a gym. Go for a nightly walk. Lift dumbells (can't buy dumbellls? fill milk cartons with water and use those) when you watch TV. Park your car a bit farther away so you have to walk more. Take the stairs instead of the elevator. Get up from your desk once in awhile and walk for 5-10 minutes.

I'll admit it, I get lazy. There are tons of excuses, but I want to get into the habit where exercising daily is as natural as taking a shower daily. You just have make time for it. If one is full of excuses, then they really don't want to lose weight.

[SoxFan76]

It's hard to eat healthy in college on our budget. Sure, we could live off soup and rice all the time, but it gets old. Even buying a pound of turkey for sandwiches is expensive for a college student. So what do we buy? Mac and Cheese, Ramen, frozen Pizzas, pop, etc.

Sure, most of us work out, but then we drink crazy amounts and order pizzas at 3am. I've gained 60 pounds since my FRESHMAN YEAR of college. I'm only a JUNIOR!

Gained about 30 pounds my freshman year, that summer lost (edit 25) of it. Went back and gained another 15 pounds, that summer GAINED about 20 more. Gained some more this semester.

It will help living at home for a few years now. I'll give my mom a grocery list of stuff to buy, I have a gym membership at Cardinal, and I won't be drinking on Thursdays anymore. That's only one day, but in any given night of drinking I have 15-20 beers. About 100 calories a beer, that's 1500-2000 calories off my weekly calorie intake. That's a whole days worth of calories.

The only thing that might kill me is I'm going to quit smoking once I move home. I'll be pigging out constantly until I get over the addiction.

[JohnBasedowYoda]

It's hard to eat healthy in college on our budget. Sure, we could live off soup and rice all the time, but it gets old. Even buying a pound of turkey for sandwiches is expensive for a college student. So what do we buy? Mac and Cheese, Ramen, frozen Pizzas, pop, etc.

Sure, most of us work out, but then we drink crazy amounts and order pizzas at 3am. I've gained 60 pounds since my FRESHMAN YEAR of college. I'm only a JUNIOR!

Gained about 30 pounds my freshman year, that summer lost (edit 25) of it. Went back and gained another 15 pounds, that summer GAINED about 20 more. Gained some more this semester.

It will help living at home for a few years now. I'll give my mom a grocery list of stuff to buy, I have a gym membership at Cardinal, and I won't be drinking on Thursdays anymore. That's only one day, but in any given night of drinking I have 15-20 beers. About 100 calories a beer, that's 1500-2000 calories off my weekly calorie intake. That's a whole days worth of calories.

The only thing that might kill me is I'm going to quit smoking once I move home. I'll be pigging out constantly until I get over the addiction.


Sure you won't be drinking on Thursday but what about Mon, Tues, Wed, etc..:)

[SoxFan76]

Sure you won't be drinking on Thursday but what about Mon, Tues, Wed, etc..:)

I'll be working all semester for the first time since I've been in college. I refuse to drink or stay out late if I have work the next day. I don't believe in sick days unless you can't walk, and I don't believe in coming into work late or hungover. Not very professional.

[Prope]

Thank you. My fault for not explaining that I'm 5'9" and of average musculature. I am not saying everyone over 200 pounds is fat. I was just speaking as to my own body type. My mistake for not being more specific.
Then I'm fat, disgusting man.....

5'8'', 215 lbs.

[23Ventura]

I love drinking, I drink tons. I don't eat tons, but I satisfy my desires and eat when need be. I work out exactly zero times a week, unless you count the two mile walk to work and the two mile walk home from work. Is this healthy? Who knows? Does it keep me at 137? Fuckin' A it does.

Bring forth my harem and we shall build strong children with our chromosomes and have sex whilst doing so.

Same here, I don't work out and I eat when I feel like it. I'm 5'10'', 130 lbs.
I'm a scrawny fucker.

[SoxFan76]

Same here, I don't work out and I eat when I feel like it. I'm 5'10'', 130 lbs.
I'm a scrawny fucker.

No offense. I'd rather be 6'5" 285 then 5'10" 130. :omg:

[Unregistered]

I'll admit it, I get lazy. There are tons of excuses, but I want to get into the habit where exercising daily is as natural as taking a shower daily.

Showering daily? :kukoo: :shrug:

[JohnBasedowYoda]

No offense. I'd rather be 6'5" 285 then 5'10" 130. :omg:


I'm 5'10" and 170.

But I look skinny:shrug:

[StockdaleforVeep]

This is a tricky subject because you cannot define obese by BMI

Muscle does way more than fat, so if you have someone who works out hardcore and builds mass, he will be considered obese if he is above the weight he "should be"

Hell, i am gradually approaching 200 lbs and according to BMI, i am gonna be obese till i hit 175 or something

I think it should be more focused on fit vs unfit

but this isnt a new story, some companies have banned smoking for their employees during breaks because smoking causes cancer and insurance rates to go higher

[StockdaleforVeep]

No offense. I'd rather be 6'5" 285 then 5'10" 130. :omg:

ditto

[Palehose13]

This is a tricky subject because you cannot define obese by BMI

Muscle does way more than fat, so if you have someone who works out hardcore and builds mass, he will be considered obese if he is above the weight he "should be"

Hell, i am gradually approaching 200 lbs and according to BMI, i am gonna be obese till i hit 175 or something

I think it should be more focused on fit vs unfit

but this isnt a new story, some companies have banned smoking for their employees during breaks because smoking causes cancer and insurance rates to go higher

I can't believe I am about to type this, but I absolutely agree with you.

[Prope]

This is a tricky subject because you cannot define obese by BMI

Muscle does way more than fat, so if you have someone who works out hardcore and builds mass, he will be considered obese if he is above the weight he "should be"

Hell, i am gradually approaching 200 lbs and according to BMI, i am gonna be obese till i hit 175 or something

I think it should be more focused on fit vs unfit

but this isnt a new story, some companies have banned smoking for their employees during breaks because smoking causes cancer and insurance rates to go higher
Thomas Jones is actually considered obese due to BMI, so like you say it don't really work at all.

[StockdaleforVeep]

It's hard to eat healthy in college on our budget. Sure, we could live off soup and rice all the time, but it gets old. Even buying a pound of turkey for sandwiches is expensive for a college student. So what do we buy? Mac and Cheese, Ramen, frozen Pizzas, pop, etc.

Sure, most of us work out, but then we drink crazy amounts and order pizzas at 3am. I've gained 60 pounds since my FRESHMAN YEAR of college. I'm only a JUNIOR!

Gained about 30 pounds my freshman year, that summer lost (edit 25) of it. Went back and gained another 15 pounds, that summer GAINED about 20 more. Gained some more this semester.

It will help living at home for a few years now. I'll give my mom a grocery list of stuff to buy, I have a gym membership at Cardinal, and I won't be drinking on Thursdays anymore. That's only one day, but in any given night of drinking I have 15-20 beers. About 100 calories a beer, that's 1500-2000 calories off my weekly calorie intake. That's a whole days worth of calories.

The only thing that might kill me is I'm going to quit smoking once I move home. I'll be pigging out constantly until I get over the addiction.

everyone is different

When i came to college i was prob around 260-275, after freshman year, i dropped 15 lbs and since freshman year to now, im now down to about 225. I drink normally and eat once a day cuz thats when i get hungry

I used to work out when i was a student cuz the rec was free and its nice to look at girls run

[StockdaleforVeep]

Thomas Jones is actually considered obese due to BMI, so like you say it don't really work at all.

Exactly, and all those freaks who are in bodybuilding and other muscle performing ventures are probably in worse health than fat people. The excess muscle and working puts more stress on their bodies

[maurice]

I lost 10 lbs. my 1st year in college. My diet consisted mostly of sandwiches, ramen, vegetables, milk, and juice. I was at the rec center 6 days / week and didn't have enough money to eat fastfood or drink a lot.

[StockdaleforVeep]

I lost 10 lbs. my 1st year in college. My diet consisted mostly of sandwiches, ramen, vegetables, milk, and juice. I was at the rec center 6 days / week and didn't have enough money to eat fastfood or drink a lot.

I ate alot of sandwiches too but other than that, it was bacon burgers and chicken fingers

My problem then as it is now, all i do is drink RC, thats my biggest vice, not an issue of the caffine, just an issue of taste

Heh, zoso and i were infamous for our eating. After class we'd get like a double order of chicken fingers and other stuff, and we just sat there and military ate while his roomate\my best friend would eat slowly and talk, we would finish our meals almost concurrently then waited for the roomate to finish

[maurice]

The steroids and dehydration that bodybuilders use to get a "ripped" look are bad for you. Carrying a football while 11 large men try to kill you 30 times / week is bad for you. A healthy diet and moderate exercise is good for you.

I certainly agree that BMI doesn't work for people who have tons of muscle mass and/or an unusually wide frame. HOWEVER, that doesn't make a 3" gut healthy. If you're 80 lbs. over your BMI and don't lift heavy weights regularly, you're not "fit," and you're not "big boned."

[maurice]

My problem then as it is now, all i do is drink RC, thats my biggest vice, not an issue of the caffine, just an issue of taste

I love the stuff too, but those empty calories absolutely kill you. All that syrupy shit = poison . . . delicious poison. My only "saving" grace is black coffee. All the caffeine with none of the calories.

[Palehose13]

The steroids and dehydration that bodybuilders use to get a "ripped" look are bad for you. Carrying a football while 11 large men try to kill you 30 times / week is bad for you. A healthy diet and moderate exercise is good for you.

I certainly agree that BMI doesn't work for people who have tons of muscle mass and/or an unusually wide frame. HOWEVER, that doesn't make a 3" gut healthy. If you're 80 lbs. over your BMI and don't lift heavy weights regularly, you're not "fit," and you're not "big boned."

I agree with that, but if I was my suggested BMI weight I would look like I was a cancer patient.

[StockdaleforVeep]

The steroids and dehydration that bodybuilders use to get a "ripped" look are bad for you. Carrying a football while 11 large men try to kill you 30 times / week is bad for you. A healthy diet and moderate exercise is good for you.

I certainly agree that BMI doesn't work for people who have tons of muscle mass and/or an unusually wide frame. HOWEVER, that doesn't make a 3" gut healthy. If you're 80 lbs. over your BMI and don't lift heavy weights regularly, you're not "fit," and you're not "big boned."

Unfortunately we have idiots who think they know more saying "all meat" or "all veggie diet" is great for you and because it fits their lifestyle they take it

Anything in excess is bad for you

[1951Campbell]

Thomas Jones is actually considered obese due to BMI, so like you say it don't really work at all.

I get the impression BMI is an old way of deciding who is fat and who isn't, and is about as reliable as phrenology.

[StockdaleforVeep]

I get the impression BMI is an old way of deciding who is fat and who isn't, and is about as reliable as phrenology.

Those old school bmi testers terrify me

I think they're gonna like medieval pierce me

[Palehose13]

Unfortunately we have idiots who think they know more saying "all meat" or "all veggie diet" is great for you and because it fits their lifestyle they take it

Anything in excess is bad for you

Holy shit. Twice in one thread. :eek: