Anarchy Now!

[Sir Realist]

Fuck the Republicrats. Fuck the communists. Fuck the islamofascists. Fuck politicians. They're all full of shit.

Let's tear it all up and start again.

http://home.austin.rr.com/rogerw/Anarchy.jpg

[Sir Realist]

I thought anarchy was only for the UK.

Let us not forget the Haymarket Massacre.

[LuvSox]

Will there be violence in the streets?

[Palehose13]

Anarchy is soooooo high school.

[fquaye14ten]

I thought anarchy was only for the UK.

you listen to too many mediocre songs, saxy boy:cool:

[Sir Realist]

Will there be violence in the streets?

Probably. The fucking fascist motherfuckers will feel threatened by the righteousness of the anarchists and I'm sure they will activate their itchy trigger fingers.

[Unreal!]

Anarchy is soooooo high school.

When I was in middle school, anarchy was as big a fad as cutting wrists or fearing global warming.

[Palehose13]

When I was in middle school, anarchy was as big a fad as cutting wrists or fearing global warming.

Cutting is still big with the emo kids in high school.

[StockdaleforVeep]

Anarchy in itself is self defeating

Anarchy is a system of govt that believes in no system of government

You are the daver of losers

[Sir Realist]

Anarchy in itself is self defeating

Anarchy is a system of govt that believes in no system of government

You are the daver of losers

Wrong. (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1931/secI5.html)

[StockdaleforVeep]

per the BBC

Anarchy
Anarchy is a situation where there is no government.

This can happen after a civil war in a country, when a government has been destroyed and rival groups are fighting to take its place.

Anarchists are people who believe that government is a bad thing. They say it stops people organising their own lives.

Now per me

In a crap shot of world like that, you will have people who have the power doing what they want to keep it, allowing people to die in the conflict. Just like socialism, you depend too much on the "Goodness" of mankind

Also, you are using sources from a pro anarchist website faq, meaning naturally they will put forth everything in a favorable sense. You need an objective neutral party to do it. Its like having an oil company doing a billiondollar research project that oil is really good for the environment

per your source
"Thus "anarchy" means more than just "no government," it means opposition to all forms of authoritarian organisation and hierarchy."

So you get rid of organisation and hierarchy, yet form one so the minority can be represented and able to rule and control

[JohnBasedowYoda]

Anarchy is soooooo high school.



You're only as young as you feel?






Let's burn/rip/smash:mad:

[StockdaleforVeep]

You're only as young as you feel?






Let's burn/rip/smash:mad:

You are not your post count

[JohnBasedowYoda]

You are not your post count


Neither are you, you damn post-countin-pointin-outin-cracker

[Sir Realist]

per the BBC

Anarchy
Anarchy is a situation where there is no government.

This can happen after a civil war in a country, when a government has been destroyed and rival groups are fighting to take its place.

Anarchists are people who believe that government is a bad thing. They say it stops people organising their own lives.

Now per me

In a crap shot of world like that, you will have people who have the power doing what they want to keep it, allowing people to die in the conflict. Just like socialism, you depend too much on the "Goodness" of mankind

Also, you are using sources from a pro anarchist website faq, meaning naturally they will put forth everything in a favorable sense. You need an objective neutral party to do it. Its like having an oil company doing a billiondollar research project that oil is really good for the environment

per your source
"Thus "anarchy" means more than just "no government," it means opposition to all forms of authoritarian organisation and hierarchy."

So you get rid of organisation and hierarchy, yet form one so the minority can be represented and able to rule and control

Why the fuck do I need to go to a "neutral" site to explain the structural visions of social anarchy? I would never expect anyone to only link me to neutral sites to explain how Republicans or Democrats vision their social structures.

Back to my original argument: Anarchy is NOT a system of govt that believes in no system of government. I believe my link clearly supports my argument.

[StockdaleforVeep]

Neither are you, you damn post-countin-pointin-outin-cracker


I challenge you to a duel billy yank

[StockdaleforVeep]

Why the fuck do I need to go to a "neutral" site to explain the structural visions of social anarchy? I would never expect anyone to only link me to neutral sites to explain how Republicans or Democrats vision their social structures.

Back to my original argument: Anarchy is NOT a system of govt that believes in no system of government. I believe my link clearly supports my argument.

because there is bias

You go to a website and it can report the news favorable for bush, on a liberal site, u will have anti bush news. Would you expect to get unbiased and neutral news from cnn, fox news or insert your own media outlet? No. Also, as for your definition, i think i have stated sources that speak to the contrary

why dont YOU declare why anarchy would be good, and how exactly you would be fit to survive in a society like that, instead of using other peoples' words. Why is anarchy good and where has it suceeded before other than temp in spain in the 40's

[Myrtle]

Well, someone's blatantly defying the "no sig pics" policy with a completely tasteless sig.

[fquaye14ten]

because there is bias

You go to a website and it can report the news favorable for bush, on a liberal site, u will have anti bush news. Would you expect to get unbiased and neutral news from cnn, fox news or insert your own media outlet? No. Also, as for your definition, i think i have stated sources that speak to the contrary

why dont YOU declare why anarchy would be good, and how exactly you would be fit to survive in a society like that, instead of using other peoples' words. Why is anarchy good and where has it suceeded before other than temp in spain in the 40's

GMAB.

You are inferring that government would be necessary to support anarchy. If you had any knowledge of theory, you would know that government only necessitates itself because of past establishment---i.e. the only reason people on desert island necessitate "order" that resembles govt is because that's how their narrative of society is written.

If they would stop and think about it they'd realize common surivival is goal and therefore govt is not necessary.

Ironically, early theological societies did not need govt (though would later install high priests) b/c "gods" were an organizing principle that took the place of govt.

[StockdaleforVeep]

GMAB.

You are inferring that government would be necessary to support anarchy. If you had any knowledge of theory, you would know that government only necessitates itself because of past establishment---i.e. the only reason people on desert island necessitate "order" that resembles govt is because that's how their narrative of society is written.

If they would stop and think about it they'd realize common surivival is goal and therefore govt is not necessary.

Ironically, early theological societies did not need govt (though would later install high priests) b/c "gods" were an organizing principle that took the place of govt.

Every society had a system or order and a hierarchical structure to SOME DEGREE and "anarchy" wants that too. Even the faq posted says the goal is to decentralize and then reorganize into a smaller group

Im not in a mood to go into mad max mode and start fighting off you broke backs to protect my gasoline

[fquaye14ten]

Every society had a system or order and a hierarchical structure to SOME DEGREE and "anarchy" wants that too. Even the faq posted says the goal is to decentralize and then reorganize into a smaller groupd

Im not in a mood to go into mad max mode and start fighting off you broke backs to protect my gasoline

that's your own narrative of what anarchy is (based, of course, on a narrative story).

organizing principle =/= government. you're making inapprorpiate associations

[JohnBasedowYoda]

Well, someone's blatantly defying the "no sig pics" policy with a completely tasteless sig.

Yeah, who is it ?:confused:

[Myrtle]

Yeah, who is it ?:confused:

Well, it was Stockdale... try and keep up.

[getonbckthr]

Fuck the Republicrats. Fuck the communists. Fuck the islamofascists. Fuck politicians. They're all full of shit.

Let's tear it all up and start again.

http://home.austin.rr.com/rogerw/Anarchy.jpg
The Vaginalists

[Sir Realist]

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[StockdaleforVeep]

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[Prope]

Anarchy in itself is self defeating

Anarchy is a system of govt that believes in no system of government

You are the daver of losers

:downer:

[StockdaleforVeep]

:downer:

ronnie realist

[Sir Realist]

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GG went off the rails a bit with all the hate. True punk rock has love at its foundation. His band sure rocks though.

[fquaye14ten]

remember when you said the sex pistols were the only "punk band"

how do you reconcile that?

I HATE YOU :(

[StockdaleforVeep]

fuckin corporate punk

[Sir Realist]

remember when you said the sex pistols were the only "punk band"

how do you reconcile that?

I HATE YOU :(

For fuck sake, I never ever said that!! Please try and pay attention. I said they were the PUREST punk band.

[fquaye14ten]

no, you said they were the only ACTUAL punk band because everyone else had to be categorized cross-genre

clash=ska-punk
stooges=classic rock/proto-punk
x=rockabilly punk

and such and such

[Sir Realist]

no, you said they were the only ACTUAL punk band because everyone else had to be categorized cross-genre

clash=ska-punk
stooges=classic rock/proto-punk
x=rockabilly punk

and such and such

I dare ya to find where I said they were the only ACTUAL punk band. You can't because it never happened. Good luck.

BTW, I also categorized the Dead Kennedys as surf-punk in that post you're refering to.

[fquaye14ten]

it was on wsi so i can't find it.

it happened nevertheless

[fquaye14ten]

you said it b/c you are a butt

[Sir Realist]

it happened nevertheless

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[fquaye14ten]

no

[Longshot7]

I like the stuff I've accumulated. I like being protected by police. I like not living in the LA Riots 24/7.

Therefore I do not like anarchy. In fact, anarchy sucks.

[Longshot7]

For fuck sake, I never ever said that!! Please try and pay attention. I said they were the PUREST punk band.

I would have to disagree in that they were assembled like the Monkees and Spice Girls - not very punk imo.

[fquaye14ten]

i like me some longshot7 right about now

[Sir Realist]

I would have to disagree in that they were assembled like the Monkees and Spice Girls - not very punk imo.

They were not assembled like the Monkees or Spice girls. Where did you ever hear bullshit like that?

[StockdaleforVeep]

For fuck sake, I never ever said that!! Please try and pay attention. I said they were the PUREST punk band.

What about x, or The Ex(two diff bands) or Mc5

[Sir Realist]

What about x, or The Ex(two diff bands) or Mc5

X is punkabilly.
Mc5 is protopunk.

I'm not familiar with The Ex.

[StockdaleforVeep]

X is punkabilly.
Mc5 is protopunk.

I'm not familiar with The Ex.

http://www.theex.nl/

[fquaye14ten]

realist is a fucking retard

[fquaye14ten]

ps: yes

[Longshot7]

They were not assembled like the Monkees or Spice girls. Where did you ever hear bullshit like that?

malcolm mclaren assembled them out of a newspaper ad. the band didnt assemble themselves.

and all this subcategorization is just semantics. Calling X punkabilly is just silly. What woud you call The Ramones? Or the Damned? Or Sham 69? Or The Adicts? or Descendents? Or Black Flag? Or Minor Threat?

now if we're talking about the best, or most influential - that's another story. But purest? Def not the Pistols.

[fquaye14ten]

malcolm mclaren assembled them out of a newspaper ad. the band didnt assemble themselves.

and all this subcategorization is just semantics. Calling X punkabilly is just silly. What woud you call The Ramones? Or the Damned? Or Sham 69? Or The Adicts? or Descendents? Or Black Flag? Or Minor Threat?

now if we're talking about the best, or most influential - that's another story. But purest? Def not the Pistols.

what it boils down to is that realist is full of shit on this matter

but it's ok--he claims to have a large wiener

[Sir Realist]

malcolm mclaren assembled them out of a newspaper ad. the band didnt assemble themselves.

That is completely wrong. You need to see this movie: The Filth and the Fury
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0236216/)

[StockdaleforVeep]

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue35/screens.film.slcpunk.jpeg
"WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT?!?! its music, I don't know who started it and I don't give a fuck. The one thing I do know is that we did it harder, we did it faster, and we definitely did it with more love, baby. You can't take that away from us. "

[fquaye14ten]

That is completely wrong. You need to see this movie: The Filth and the Fury
(http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0236216/)

Temple tells this story through accounts given to him by the still living Sex Pistols,

hmmm realist...how long will you continue spewing bullshit on this topic

[fquaye14ten]

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/vol18/issue35/screens.film.slcpunk.jpeg
"WHO CARES WHO STARTED IT?!?! its music, I don't know who started it and I don't give a fuck. The one thing I do know is that we did it harder, we did it faster, and we definitely did it with more love, baby. You can't take that away from us. "

that movie was a piece of shit, and anyone who references it in a punk rock discussion needs to not

[StockdaleforVeep]

that movie was a piece of shit, and anyone who references it in a punk rock discussion needs to not

Move is shit and overrated\hyped as boondock saints was. Its just a good quote to use on the topic and hilarious how they went from stereotypical basement kids listening to Rush and playin d&d to goin to punk music

Im surprised they didnt throw in a doctor who segment to show they watched

[fquaye14ten]

the guy who played heroin bob was a good performance, i guess, but aside from that it was a fucking cliched lame movie

the best punk rock narrative drama? i dunno, trainspotting? although i didn't like that.

at least the jailbait bitch called iggy pop ziggy pop and ewan macgregor renton got mad

[Sir Realist]

Temple tells this story through accounts given to him by the still living Sex Pistols,

hmmm realist...how long will you continue spewing bullshit on this topic

You haven't even seen the movie. :rolling:

P.S. Stick to discussing your snot nosed shoe gazer music. You're libel to get hurt discussing punk rock and you'll have to call your parents to come pick you from the concert all crying because somebody bumped into you. You've time after time proven that you're in way over your head when it comes to discussing punk rock.

[Longshot7]

I'll watch the movie but I stand by what I said. McLaren "assembled" the band, named them, and called the shots - not unlike Simon Fuller with the Spice Girls.

and musically, they're way overrated.

[maurice]

Christianity + Anarchy = getting your ass kicked.

It's all well and good until some dude is all like, "Hey, I really like your new cell phone; I think I'll take it." And then you're all like, "No way, man; I'm totally gonna call 911 on you." But then you remember that they got rid of the 911. And then the dude stabs you in the eye, and you're all like, "Ow, somebody call 911 and get me an ambulence!" But then you remember that they got rid of the 911. Then the guy kicks you in the cheek, but Jesus told you to turn the other cheek. So he punches you in the other cheek and walks away with your new phone.
:shrug:

[Sir Realist]

I'll watch the movie but I stand by what I said. McLaren "assembled" the band, named them, and called the shots - not unlike Simon Fuller with the Spice Girls.

So you're gonna believe what you want about how the Pistols were formed even if it's contrary to the way the Pistols or even Mclaren have described their origins?

I can honestly say that I can't argue with that logic. :confused:

[maurice]

Healthier combinations than Christianity + Anarchy:

Christianity + Christian theocracy

Anarchy + Shaolin Kung Fu Buddhism

[Sir Realist]

Healthier combinations than Christianity + Anarchy:

Christianity + Christian theocracy

Anarchy + Shaolin Kung Fu Buddhism

You've got a pretty narrow view on the definition of anarchy and when and how it should be applied.

[fquaye14ten]

You haven't even seen the movie. :rolling:

P.S. Stick to discussing your snot nosed shoe gazer music. You're libel to get hurt discussing punk rock and you'll have to call your parents to come pick you from the concert all crying because somebody bumped into you. You've time after time proven that you're in way over your head when it comes to discussing punk rock.

dipshit, i live punk rock...i own more punk rock cds than any other genre

and i have probably 700 cds.

how about this: how about a guy who sucks elvis costello cock stops telling me what constitutes punk rock.

go listen to the jam or something you mod ass faggot

[fquaye14ten]

furthermore it doesn't make a lick of difference what the honest to god truth is about the pistols--their catalog is 80% crap and john lydon is a crooning faggot.

pil is a blight on humanity

[Sir Realist]

dipshit, i live punk rock...i own more punk rock cds than any other genre

and i have probably 700 cds.

This is the funniest shit I've ever read! The Pistols may be the purest punk band ever, but you're with out a doubt the purest poseur ever.

"700 cds" :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

[Dan Mega]

This is the funniest shit I've ever read! The Pistols may be the purest punk band ever, but you're with out a doubt the purest poseur ever.

"700 cds" :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

This is why I shaved my mohawk in college. Too much elitism in punk rock. Its music for pete's sake.

[fquaye14ten]

This is the funniest shit I've ever read! The Pistols may be the purest punk band ever, but you're with out a doubt the purest poseur ever.

"700 cds" :rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

yeah dude...i've seen your myspace...you're such an authentic dude....

oh wait---out of all the people on this board, besides mega, you probably know the least about music, or at least, knowing what you're talking about.

but yeah. i'm a poseur. you've never met me. you have no idea what i listen to besides the like 10 bands out of like the 400-500 i listen to that i mention on this board, but i'm a poster.

meanwhile, you think elvis fucking mediocre costello is the greatest thing on god's green earth?

sure :rolleyes: i'm the punk-poseur.

let's recap:

realists claim: the sex pistols rule, fquaye is a poseur because he doesn't like the bubblegum pop kings of punk.

kewl dude. at least (as you claim) you have a big cock, cuz obviously you weren't blessed with much upstairs, at least when it comes to anything you bray about on this board

[fquaye14ten]

the three things realist posts about:

how awesome it is to be religious
what constitutes pure punk rock
how to buy magnums

and he sounds like an idiot doing all three :shrug:

[Dan Mega]

I wouldn't say I know the least about music. I'm the most tone deaf.

[fquaye14ten]

could be. i don't know what you're like in real life...i just know you based on the claims you make re: the hold steady sounding like o.a.r sounding like wilco.

i assume you're probably joking, so it's no matter.

however i'm sure realist is equally a twat in real life as he is on this board

[Sir Realist]

could be. i don't know what you're like in real life...i just know you based on the claims you make re: the hold steady sounding like o.a.r sounding like wilco.

i assume you're probably joking, so it's no matter.

however i'm sure realist is equally a twat in real life as he is on this board

The only thing funnier than your "full of shit" posts about music is the fact that you don't even realize how full of shit you are. :D

[Sir Realist]

Call To Action (http://www.rncwelcomingcommittee.org/calltoaction)

We're calling for:

1. Whatever skills you've got: medical, food-prep, legal, soapboxing,
circus tricks. You name it, we wanna see it.
2. Intelligence gathering. Seriously.
3. Big numbers: your presence makes a difference, even if you aren't
doing anything but sending good vibes our way and bad vibes to the
RNC.
4. Decentralized actions: both coordinated and independent; these
cities are a playground, and you wouldn't want to miss all the fun.
5. Surprises: Republicans, cops, starry-eyed youth- everyone likes a
surprise.

These are the rules:

1. Know the area. Come early, come often. Or if you can't do that, study up from home (Al Gore invented the Internet for a reason).
2. Respect local communities, develop your knowledge of local background, and remember that, good or bad, the effects of your actions endure long after you've left town.
3. Strategize: Be smart. Be creative. Get a sense of what other organizing is going on.
4. Take initiative.
5. Keep your privilege in check. Recognize socialized systems of domination, and work to undermine them.
6. Respect. Respect. Respect. Where it's due. But no capitulation, and do what you have to do.
7. Keep the bullshit to a minimum. Elitism is not security culture.
No vanguardism, no unnecessary infighting, no loose lips.

[fquaye14ten]

The only thing funnier than your "full of shit" posts about music is the fact that you don't even realize how full of shit you are. :D

except that i'm not the one claiming that x isn't pure punk...

oh but you watched a sex pistols documentary?

i mean, i could tell you all the books i've read on punk, but that would be irrelevant because all commercial products on punk are to be taken with a grain of salt.

but i suppose x isn't pure punk and neither are the ramones or the damned or the clash or the cramps or the stiff little fingers or the blah blah blah

and why? cuz realist found jesus the other day and jesus told him the following things:

1.) you're allowed to just arbitrarily change definitions that have long been accepted in order to fit your retarded opinions

2.) as a 50 year old fat man, it's perfectly appropriate to go on message boards and talk about what awesome sex you had when you were 20, how many drugs you used to do, and what the specifications of your gentialia are....

3.) anarchy is radical dude!

[the fluffer]

:pwned:

[Sir Realist]

and what the specifications of your gentialia are....

Damn you ALMOST made it through a whole post without bringing up my cock. You were so close! Keep trying little boy. You'll do it eventually. Just keep telling yourself, "I think I can. I think I can. I think I can." :)

[fquaye14ten]

look--i learned from the master.

i could post nonstop about it, but i still wouldn't match the precedent you set.

i'm going to stop talking about it now, only because i really don't feel like dealing with your moronic posts anymore....it's fucked up when a 23 year old has to explain basic concepts to a 50 year old....and i'm really sick of how pathetic that seems

[Sir Realist]

i'm going to stop talking about it now

I honestly don't think you can. :)

[fquaye14ten]

don't smile at me


somehow it's possible you're more obnoxious than the gonorrhea i've apparently contracted

[Sir Realist]

...the gonorrhea i've apparently contracted

:rolling: :rolling: :rolling:

Cut it out! I'm cryin' over here!

[1951Campbell]

I used to think that the less we heard about fquaye's opinions on the Sex Pistols, the better, and the less we heard about Realist's cock and anarchy, the better...but this thread is too hilarious. :D

[Sir Realist]

I used to think that the less we heard about fquaye's opinions on the Sex Pistols, the better, and the less we heard about Realist's cock and anarchy, the better...but this thread is too hilarious. :D

:thumbsup:

This shit rules. I can't stop giggling. :D

[fquaye14ten]

I used to think that the less we heard about fquaye's opinions on the Sex Pistols, the better, and the less we heard about Realist's cock and anarchy, the better...but this thread is too hilarious. :D

campbell, you're next

shitlist=

1. realist
2. innerpee
3. crampbell

[StockdaleforVeep]

dipshit, i live punk rock...i own more punk rock cds than any other genre

and i have probably 700 cds.

how about this: how about a guy who sucks elvis costello cock stops telling me what constitutes punk rock.

go listen to the jam or something you mod ass faggot

You are not your cd collection

[StockdaleforVeep]

This is why I shaved my mohawk in college. Too much elitism in punk rock. Its music for pete's sake.

a mohawk did not make you a rebel or punk, you conformed to the anti conformist image society wanted you to have

[Unregistered]

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[StockdaleforVeep]

Call To Action (http://www.rncwelcomingcommittee.org/calltoaction)

Im an anarchist and im lazy, so im not gonna do what some high hatted fuck like you tell me what i should do, conformist!

[StockdaleforVeep]

except that i'm not the one claiming that x isn't pure punk...

oh but you watched a sex pistols documentary?

i mean, i could tell you all the books i've read on punk, but that would be irrelevant because all commercial products on punk are to be taken with a grain of salt.

but i suppose x isn't pure punk and neither are the ramones or the damned or the clash or the cramps or the stiff little fingers or the blah blah blah

and why? cuz realist found jesus the other day and jesus told him the following things:

1.) you're allowed to just arbitrarily change definitions that have long been accepted in order to fit your retarded opinions

2.) as a 50 year old fat man, it's perfectly appropriate to go on message boards and talk about what awesome sex you had when you were 20, how many drugs you used to do, and what the specifications of your gentialia are....

3.) anarchy is radical dude!

X was the relative "doors" of punk music and were the beginning of the major punk movement in LA

[fquaye14ten]

eh..all x really had in common with the doors was ray manzarek in the booth and on organ on a couple of Los Angeles songs and the reputation of being rock and roll "poets".

the thing is, while X earned their reputation of being rock and roll "poets" by writing intelligent, ballsy lyrics, The Doors "earned" the repuation of poets on Morrisson's preening, posturing, and self-important verse

[fquaye14ten]

You are not your cd collection

no, but my cd IS me:

AWESOME:rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:

[maurice]

What's with the "7 rules"? Such a weak brand of Anarchy.

[StockdaleforVeep]

What's with the "7 rules"? Such a weak brand of Anarchy.

Also, an anarchist is utilizing a mass governmentaly watched system like the internet to transmit messages, what a conformist

[Unregistered]

:bump:

[fquaye14ten]

:poop:

[Unregistered]

:lovethread:

[Sir Realist]

An Introduction to Anarchism (http://www.black-rose.com/articles-liz/intro-@.html)

Anarchism is a political philosophy that is shrouded in misconception. This is largely due to the fact that anarchism is a truly diverse way of thinking, one which cannot be characterized by simple slogans or party lines. In fact, if you ask 10 anarchists for their description of anarchism, you are likely to get 10 different answers. Anarchism is more than just a political philosophy; it is a way of life that encompasses political, pragmatic and personal aspects.

The basic tenet of anarchism is that hierarchical authority -- be it state, church, patriarchy or economic elite -- is not only unnecessary, but is inherently detrimental to the maximization of human potential. Anarchists generally believe that human beings are capable of managing their own affairs on the basis of creativity, cooperation, and mutual respect. It is believed that power is inherently corrupting, and that authorities are inevitably more concerned with self-perpetuation and increasing their own power than they are with doing what is best for their constituents. Anarchists generally maintain that ethics are a personal matter, and should be based upon concern for others and the wellbeing of society, rather than upon laws imposed by a legal or religious authority (including revered laws such as the U.S. Constitution). Most anarchist philosophies hold that individuals are responsibile for their own behavior. Paternalistic authorities foster a dehumanized mindset in which people expect elites to make decisions for them and meet their needs, rather than thinking and acting for themselves. When an authority arrogates to itself the right to overrule the most fundamental personal moral decisions, such as what is worth killing or dying for (as in military conscription or abortion), human freedom is immeasurably diminished.

Anarchists acknowledge the connection between various forms of oppression -- including sexism, racism, heterosexism, classism, and national chauvinism -- and recognize the futility of focusing opposition on one form of injustice while others continue to exist. Anarchists believe that the means one uses to transform the world must be in accord with the ends that one hopes to achieve. While anarchists disagree about strategies and tactics, including the need for formal organizations and the use of violent action to overthrow existing violent institutions, most agree that the focus must not be on merely destroying the current order, but on fashioning new, more humane and more rational alternatives to take its place.

[Sir Realist]

http://anarchism.jesusradicals.com/images/jrlogo.jpg

Christian Anarchists (http://anarchism.jesusradicals.com/index.php)

[StockdaleforVeep]

An Introduction to Anarchism (http://www.black-rose.com/articles-liz/intro-@.html)

So you decentralize and have all the elites who were out of power assuming greater power because there is nothing to stop them

Also fine, lets say you allow the people to do what they want, if they gain power, they become corrupt, you cannot have a system where you have equal power across the board

You cannot eliminate the low and high ends of power, and when someone has something the other doesnt have, the one who wants it will take it

[maurice]

The Pharisees also were concerned about a hierarchical government authority which arrogated to itself the right to overrule the most fundamental personal moral decisions. Jesus replied, "Pay your damn taxes, you lazy hippies."

[Sir Realist]

I recently caught a documentary called New York Doll (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/). It's a fascinating character study of Arthur Kane, the bass player for The New York Dolls. If any of you are interested in early punk music, this is a must see.

P.S. When the fuck did Morrissey become the most normal motherfucker in all of rock music? :confused:

[Unregistered]

:100posts:

[Longshot7]

dipshit, i live punk rock...i own more punk rock cds than any other genre

and i have probably 700 cds.



700? That's it?

:)

[fquaye14ten]

I recently caught a documentary called New York Doll (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436629/). It's a fascinating character study of Arthur Kane, the bass player for The New York Dolls. If any of you are interested in early punk music, this is a must see.

P.S. When the fuck did Morrissey become the most normal motherfucker in all of rock music? :confused:

poor arthur kane. waited his whole life for the dolls to reunite, then catches leukemia like immediately after.

oh well. a dolls reunion without johnny is gay anyway. what do you have left? sylvain sylvain arthur kane and the drummer.

i refuse to count david johansen for anything. anyway, johnny's version of subway train was better.

[Sir Realist]

poor arthur kane. waited his whole life for the dolls to reunite, then catches leukemia like immediately after.

oh well. a dolls reunion without johnny is gay anyway. what do you have left? sylvain sylvain arthur kane and the drummer.

i refuse to count david johansen for anything. anyway, johnny's version of subway train was better.

I tend to look at the story as uplifting. If he had died without there ever being a reunion and a clearing of the air with Johansen, I'd have felt bad for him. As it was, I like to look at as Arthur Kane went out on top. He was treated like a king at that reunion.

I think the Dolls drummer is dead too, no?

[fquaye14ten]

that's right...he is...

fucking morrissey and his jet boy obsession

[Prope]

This is the thread that just wont die

[Sir Realist]

This is the thread that just wont die...

...ever.

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[fquaye14ten]

the keith richards of threads

[Sir Realist]

the keith richards of threads

I prefer "The Iggy Pop of Threads", but Keith Richards works nice too.

http://www.pyke-eye.com/a/music/iggy-pop.jpg

[fquaye14ten]

meet me at the coffee shop

we can dance like iggy pop

[Sir Realist]

From the greatest film seen by the fewest people - Arizona Dream (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106307/)
"In The Death Car" - Iggy Pop/Goran Bregovic
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a little more Arizona Dream
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Arizona Dream cont.
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[Prope]

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[Sir Realist]

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/gay8.jpg

That post doesn't carry much water when it's connected to that avatar of yours. :)

[Prope]

That post doesn't carry much water when it's connected to that avatar of yours. :)
When I die, I want to be frozen. That way, when I'm dead I can spend eternity thinking about ways in which I can avoid dying. Then, when they find the cure for whatever killed me, I can recover and since I already know what move the guy used to kill me, I can counter it and kill him...............Assuming he was frozen and brought back to life as well."

[StockdaleforVeep]

When I die, I want to be frozen. That way, when I'm dead I can spend eternity thinking about ways in which I can avoid dying. Then, when they find the cure for whatever killed me, I can recover and since I already know what move the guy used to kill me, I can counter it and kill him...............Assuming he was frozen and brought back to life as well."
Dwight has an answer for the chips question
"Yes, I have decided to shun Andy Bernard for the next three years. Which I’m looking forward to. It’s an Amish technique. It’s like slapping someone with silence. I was shunned from the age of four until my sixth birthday for not saving the excess oil from a can of tuna."

[Sir Realist]

Back when the audience was allowed to express their love and the band had balls...CYVUTlSWcq0...

Selll out cocksuckers...
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[Longshot7]

http://www.shoutmouth.com/index.php/news/23379

Blog posting about the Top 25 Punk Bands...... for the discussion.

[Prope]

This thread, won't die.